JMH Emeritus, Contributor Joined Apr 2, 2012 Posts 7,197 May 8, 2012 #1 DDR4 memory, the successor to DDR3 DRAM, will be available in computers next year, Micron announced on Monday. The company says that it has already started shipping samples of the upcoming memory type, reports Techworld Australia. Click to expand... http://www.neowin.net/news/ddr4-ram...&utm_campaign=Feed:+neowin-main+(Neowin+News)
DDR4 memory, the successor to DDR3 DRAM, will be available in computers next year, Micron announced on Monday. The company says that it has already started shipping samples of the upcoming memory type, reports Techworld Australia. Click to expand... http://www.neowin.net/news/ddr4-ram...&utm_campaign=Feed:+neowin-main+(Neowin+News)
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore May 8, 2012 #2 I'm still running DDR2.
Laxer Co-FounderSenior Administrator Staff member Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 4,003 Location Portland, OR May 9, 2012 #3 It is expected that DDR4 memory units will draw less power, starting at 1.2 volts instead of the 1.5 volts for DDR3. Bus speeds for DDR4 will start at 2133MHz, and the new memory is designed to process read, write and refresh more efficiently than its predecessors. Click to expand... I hope they cut down on timing too... I hate waiting :rofl12: Ugh to think in a year my 16gbs of DDR3 will be obsolete...
It is expected that DDR4 memory units will draw less power, starting at 1.2 volts instead of the 1.5 volts for DDR3. Bus speeds for DDR4 will start at 2133MHz, and the new memory is designed to process read, write and refresh more efficiently than its predecessors. Click to expand... I hope they cut down on timing too... I hate waiting :rofl12: Ugh to think in a year my 16gbs of DDR3 will be obsolete...
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore May 9, 2012 #4 Will DDR4 be different than DDR3? i.e., can DDR4 fit in DDR3 slots?
Temmu Well-known member Joined Apr 18, 2012 Posts 436 Location far reaches of the galaxy, but you knew that... May 9, 2012 #5 probably not - voltages are different. just a guess.
Laxer Co-FounderSenior Administrator Staff member Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 4,003 Location Portland, OR May 9, 2012 #6 They will just change the pin configuration around a bit I would imagine... For example notice the gap at the bottom? They will move it like 1/2" in either direction so that they will not physically fit in an incorrect slot.
They will just change the pin configuration around a bit I would imagine... For example notice the gap at the bottom? They will move it like 1/2" in either direction so that they will not physically fit in an incorrect slot.
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore May 9, 2012 #7 Was the timeframe faster for DDR2 --> 3 --> 4 than it was for DDR1 --> 2?
Laxer Co-FounderSenior Administrator Staff member Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 4,003 Location Portland, OR May 9, 2012 #8 Not sure on release times.... Here is a better picture for you: Keep in mind... my world of computing only consist of DDR2-3 was not around when DDR first came out. Last edited: May 9, 2012
Not sure on release times.... Here is a better picture for you: Keep in mind... my world of computing only consist of DDR2-3 was not around when DDR first came out.
jcgriff2 Co-Founder / AdminBSOD Instructor/ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Feb 19, 2012 Posts 21,541 Location New Jersey Shore May 9, 2012 #9 And you think I was around? :lol:
Wrench97 Administrator, Hardware Expert Staff member Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 3,075 Location S.E. Pennsylvania May 10, 2012 #10 So I guess you missed Simm's, Rambus Rdram, and Sdram, single sided, double sided, high density and low density :lol:
So I guess you missed Simm's, Rambus Rdram, and Sdram, single sided, double sided, high density and low density :lol:
Temmu Well-known member Joined Apr 18, 2012 Posts 436 Location far reaches of the galaxy, but you knew that... May 10, 2012 #11 when ddr 7 comes out, the notch will have moved so far left as to not be on the ram stick itself at all!!
when ddr 7 comes out, the notch will have moved so far left as to not be on the ram stick itself at all!!
Britton30 R.I.P July 9, 2014 Joined Apr 24, 2012 Posts 200 May 12, 2012 #12 Temmu said: when ddr 7 comes out, the notch will have moved so far left as to not be on the ram stick itself at all!! Click to expand... That will be the tactile interface and use our brains for memory. One will only need to lay hands on an input device and thoughts do the rest.
Temmu said: when ddr 7 comes out, the notch will have moved so far left as to not be on the ram stick itself at all!! Click to expand... That will be the tactile interface and use our brains for memory. One will only need to lay hands on an input device and thoughts do the rest.
Laxer Co-FounderSenior Administrator Staff member Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 4,003 Location Portland, OR May 14, 2012 #13 hahaha I had the same thought... :rofl12: DDR7 will be brain power... :grin1:
Temmu Well-known member Joined Apr 18, 2012 Posts 436 Location far reaches of the galaxy, but you knew that... May 14, 2012 #14 and... ddr4 is not even a standard yet! not for months to come, if it gets ratified! back to the good ol' days of proprietary hardware.
and... ddr4 is not even a standard yet! not for months to come, if it gets ratified! back to the good ol' days of proprietary hardware.
Britton30 R.I.P July 9, 2014 Joined Apr 24, 2012 Posts 200 Jun 3, 2012 #15 Also note that in the move from DDR to DDR2/3 the pin count went from 184 to 240. DDR4 may have more and maybe multiple notches.
Also note that in the move from DDR to DDR2/3 the pin count went from 184 to 240. DDR4 may have more and maybe multiple notches.
U usasma Retired Admin Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 2,126 Jun 5, 2012 #16 RAM slots will have to extend out of the back of the case!!!
GZ Visiting Expert Joined Apr 8, 2012 Posts 1,302 Location New Jersey Jun 6, 2012 #17 As with everything else, there will (eventually) be a downsizing! Who knows, maybe SoDIMMs (or similarly small RAM form factor) will become the norm in desktop PCs in the future.
As with everything else, there will (eventually) be a downsizing! Who knows, maybe SoDIMMs (or similarly small RAM form factor) will become the norm in desktop PCs in the future.
Cayden Member Joined Jul 25, 2012 Posts 198 Location Toronto Jul 26, 2012 #18 Wow! It was, what, eight whole years before DDR3 was released? And probably longer from DDR to DDR2! I think it's only been five years since DDR3! Most likely Intel will be leading the charge in making DDR4 compatible chipsets again.
Wow! It was, what, eight whole years before DDR3 was released? And probably longer from DDR to DDR2! I think it's only been five years since DDR3! Most likely Intel will be leading the charge in making DDR4 compatible chipsets again.
Laxer Co-FounderSenior Administrator Staff member Joined Feb 20, 2012 Posts 4,003 Location Portland, OR Jul 26, 2012 #19 I think AMD will be leading the charge... Intel will just do it correctly shortly after... :rofl12: Is this not true?
I think AMD will be leading the charge... Intel will just do it correctly shortly after... :rofl12: Is this not true?
Cayden Member Joined Jul 25, 2012 Posts 198 Location Toronto Jul 26, 2012 #20 That would also make sense! Who knows, maybe we may start seeing an ARM microchip manufacturer pop up for desktop and laptop application.
That would also make sense! Who knows, maybe we may start seeing an ARM microchip manufacturer pop up for desktop and laptop application.