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    Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar


    Texting could lead to a decline in language skills, warns a new study that found tweens who text are more likely to fall short on grammar tests.

    Many tweens take shortcuts or use so-called techspeak when sending text messages. “They may use a homophone, such as gr8 for great, or an initial, like, LOL for laugh out loud,” Northwestern researcher Drew Cingel explained in a statement. Other shortcuts include dropping non-essential letters, such as changing the word “would” to “wud.”

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    lol, like no way!
    Texting of horrible... Yet I find adults use more poor grammar when they text then do my peers...
    On a side note, I do intentionally use poor grammar when talking with some friends...

    I use a lot of third person...

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    I text quite a lot but I tend to use proper grammar and punctuation rather than sp33k lik dis.

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Geoff just uses lots of "S"s and speaks in third person... There are also a ton of inside jokes so others may be confused :)

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    This is probably overkill but all my texts are grammatically correct, apostrophe's, commas, the whole lot. The only time I don't is when I'm abroad and have to stick to the character limit whilst saying as much as possible.

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Well...

    I almost always text with full sentences and proper grammar and punctuation.

    However, when I am texting off my mother's phone, I generally use uber-hardcore txtspk. Sometimes when my mother wants a long message written, I type it for her because I am faster than she is. Quite a lot of this extra speed comes from txtspk, but she hasn't worked that out yet. She just likes my fast typing! lol.


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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by niemiro View Post
    Well...

    I almost always text with full sentences and proper grammar and punctuation.

    However, when I am texting off my mother's phone, I generally use uber-hardcore txtspk. Sometimes when my mother wants a long message written, I type it for her because I am faster than she is. Quite a lot of this extra speed comes from txtspk, but she hasn't worked that out yet. She just likes my fast typing! lol.

    Hehe, my mum is the same. If I'm around she refuses to type her own texts.

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    The only time I don't use proper grammar and the whole nine is on video games. Too much time and effort to get a quick word out.

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    No problem here -- I don't have a text plan on my cell phone.


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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    I have texting on my cell phone (a minimal amount came standard), but I never use it since the phone isn't designed for it (no keyboard). While I typically do use proper grammer, I sometimes do "cheat" a bit - what can I say? As an author, my books are always grammatically correct - but that's a different situation.

    Is anyone thinking that use of poor grammar (or shortcuts like IMHO or FWIW) in texting tends to flow into all areas and creates or causes bad grammar as one begins to forget the proper ways? I'm inclined to believe that it's a special case due to the difficulty (even for those good at it), the desire to keep messages short, and probably where it is occurring (like stopped at a red light). I don't accept that if the basic skills exist in the first place that texting has an impact. I suspect the problem isn't texting as much as a decline in teaching grammar, too much reliance on computer tools like Word's "grammar check" (which is far from always right), and perhaps even a decline in students caring about grammar at the stage it is normally taught.

    But to be honest, while I attempt to remain grammatically-correct myself, the important thing is to communicate the message. I'd rather see a thorough and detailed post I can understand with grammar problems than a grammatically-correct post where I'm forced to ask questions to try to figure out the meaning.
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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh Vorlon View Post
    I have texting on my cell phone (a minimal amount came standard), but I never use it since the phone isn't designed for it (no keyboard). While I typically do use proper grammer, I sometimes do "cheat" a bit - what can I say? As an author, my books are always grammatically correct - but that's a different situation.

    Is anyone thinking that use of poor grammar (or shortcuts like IMHO or FWIW) in texting tends to flow into all areas and creates or causes bad grammar as one begins to forget the proper ways? I'm inclined to believe that it's a special case due to the difficulty (even for those good at it), the desire to keep messages short, and probably where it is occurring (like stopped at a red light). I don't accept that if the basic skills exist in the first place that texting has an impact. I suspect the problem isn't texting as much as a decline in teaching grammar, too much reliance on computer tools like Word's "grammar check" (which is far from always right), and perhaps even a decline in students caring about grammar at the stage it is normally taught.

    But to be honest, while I attempt to remain grammatically-correct myself, the important thing is to communicate the message. I'd rather see a thorough and detailed post I can understand with grammar problems than a grammatically-correct post where I'm forced to ask questions to try to figure out the meaning.
    1 (0/\/\PL373L'/ 49r33. /\/\'/ p|-|0|\|3 |-|4$ 4|\| 4PP (\/\/|-|1(|-| 1 U$3!) Ph0r 34$'/ L337 $P34|<, bU7 7|-|1$ d03$|\|'7 |\|3(3$$4r1L'/ /\/\34|\| 7|-|47 1 U$3 17 0|\| /\/\'/ (0/\/\PU73r 4L$0.
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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by niemiro View Post
    1 (0/\/\PL373L'/ 49r33. /\/\'/ p|-|0|\|3 |-|4$ 4|\| 4PP (\/\/|-|1(|-| 1 U$3!) Ph0r 34$'/ L337 $P34|<, bU7 7|-|1$ d03$|\|'7 |\|3(3$$4r1L'/ /\/\34|\| 1 U$3 17 0|\| /\/\'/ (0/\/\PU73r 4L$0.
    Good Lord! Are you saying that actually has meaning to anyone indiginous to planet earth?
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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh Vorlon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by niemiro View Post
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    Good Lord! Are you saying that actually has meaning to anyone indiginous to planet earth?
    lol! Yes it does. It is called l33t speak, and is quite unfashionable at the moment. It is all about forming the shape of letters using symbols, e.g.

    $ --> s
    4 --> a
    ( --> c
    /\/\ --> M

    I will start you off. The first sentence is "I completely agree."

    Can you see that? Can you translate the rest?

    lol.

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by niemiro
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    Wow............Wow!!! I sort of get it with your explanation.........ish

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    This has been around for years, the l33t-sp34k g3n3r4t0r (leet speak generator): http://ryanross.net/leet/. Unfortunately, it doesn't do reverse translations. :)


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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrine View Post
    This has been around for years, the l33t-sp34k g3n3r4t0r (leet speak generator): http://ryanross.net/leet/. Unfortunately, it doesn't do reverse translations. :)
    This one does both ways http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html

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    Thanks, Stephen. That made it easy to translate niemiro's post without straining my brain. :)


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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrine View Post
    Thanks, Stephen. That made it easy to translate niemiro's post without straining my brain. :)
    No problem Corrine, I needed to use it myself.

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    Re: Texting May Lead to Bad Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrine View Post
    Thanks, Stephen. That made it easy to translate niemiro's post without straining my brain. :)
    It probably wasn't my best post. I wrote out the l33t manually, and wasn't so concerned about what I was actually writing!

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    Not to worry. You weren't being graded on your l33t sp34k. :)


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