Windows update is not running - win 7 x64

itpusher

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I just now found ot that windowsupdate is not running. The reason for finding this was that my Internet Explorer 9 was stopping.

I have included the log from windows. Will somone help?View attachment 3484
 
Hello itpusher, welcome to Sysnative!

Your CheckSUR log indicates that a few packages need replacing so let's start off with that:

Windows Update Package Replacement

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Please download the attached file, Packs.zip and save this to your Desktop.
  2. Right-click on the file and select Extract All...
  3. Tick the box labelled Show extracted files when complete then click Extract
  4. A window will open showing two folders, Manifests and Packages
  5. Open the Manifests folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Winsxs\Manifests

  6. Open the Packages folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Servicing\Packages

  7. Run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) again
  8. When the SURT finishes installing, copy (Ctrl + C) and paste (Ctrl + V) the contents of the SURT log into your next post please:

    C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.persist.log


Tom
 

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Hello itpusher, welcome to Sysnative!

Your CheckSUR log indicates that a few packages need replacing so let's start off with that:

Windows Update Package Replacement

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Please download the attached file, Packs.zip and save this to your Desktop.
  2. Right-click on the file and select Extract All...
  3. Tick the box labelled Show extracted files when complete then click Extract
  4. A window will open showing two folders, Manifests and Packages
  5. Open the Manifests folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Winsxs\Manifests
  6. Open the Packages folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Servicing\Packages
  7. Run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) again
  8. When the SURT finishes installing, copy (Ctrl + C) and paste (Ctrl + V) the contents of the SURT log into your next post please:

    C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.persist.log


Tom

Hi Tom,

I downloaded the file and extracted it as you said, but in my C:\Windows\Temp there are no folder called checksur. In fact there are no folders as you described. See the included file called error.
I downloaded the SURT, but I could not run it as the program claimed, that the windows update service is not installed. I think that this is the real problem.
Can you help?

Itpusher
 

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Hello itpusher, welcome to Sysnative!

Your CheckSUR log indicates that a few packages need replacing so let's start off with that:

Windows Update Package Replacement

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Please download the attached file, Packs.zip and save this to your Desktop.
  2. Right-click on the file and select Extract All...
  3. Tick the box labelled Show extracted files when complete then click Extract
  4. A window will open showing two folders, Manifests and Packages
  5. Open the Manifests folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Winsxs\Manifests
  6. Open the Packages folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Servicing\Packages
  7. Run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) again
  8. When the SURT finishes installing, copy (Ctrl + C) and paste (Ctrl + V) the contents of the SURT log into your next post please:

    C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.persist.log


Tom

Hi Tom,

I downloaded the file and extracted it as you said, but in my C:\Windows\Temp there are no folder called checksur. In fact there are no folders as you described. See the included file called error.
I downloaded the SURT, but I could not run it as the program claimed, that the windows update service is not installed. I think that this is the real problem.
Can you help?

Itpusher

Welcome to Sysnative :)

Please create all of the CheckSUR and other missing directories, and then place the files as described above.

Then we must work at getting SURT to run.

Please download FSS from here: Farbar Service Scanner Download

Put a check in every box, click "Scan", and post the log which opens.

Thank you!

Richard
 
Hello itpusher, welcome to Sysnative!

Your CheckSUR log indicates that a few packages need replacing so let's start off with that:

Windows Update Package Replacement

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Please download the attached file, Packs.zip and save this to your Desktop.
  2. Right-click on the file and select Extract All...
  3. Tick the box labelled Show extracted files when complete then click Extract
  4. A window will open showing two folders, Manifests and Packages
  5. Open the Manifests folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Winsxs\Manifests
  6. Open the Packages folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Servicing\Packages
  7. Run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) again
  8. When the SURT finishes installing, copy (Ctrl + C) and paste (Ctrl + V) the contents of the SURT log into your next post please:

    C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.persist.log


Tom

Hi Tom,

I downloaded the file and extracted it as you said, but in my C:\Windows\Temp there are no folder called checksur. In fact there are no folders as you described. See the included file called error.
I downloaded the SURT, but I could not run it as the program claimed, that the windows update service is not installed. I think that this is the real problem.
Can you help?

Itpusher

Welcome to Sysnative :)

Please create all of the CheckSUR and other missing directories, and then place the files as described above.

Then we must work at getting SURT to run.

Please download FSS from here: Farbar Service Scanner Download

Put a check in every box, click "Scan", and post the log which opens.

Thank you!

Richard
 
Hello itpusher, welcome to Sysnative!

Your CheckSUR log indicates that a few packages need replacing so let's start off with that:

Windows Update Package Replacement

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Please download the attached file, Packs.zip and save this to your Desktop.
  2. Right-click on the file and select Extract All...
  3. Tick the box labelled Show extracted files when complete then click Extract
  4. A window will open showing two folders, Manifests and Packages
  5. Open the Manifests folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Winsxs\Manifests
  6. Open the Packages folder and copy the files into the following folder (if there are any files)

    C:\Windows\Temp\CheckSur\Servicing\Packages
  7. Run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) again
  8. When the SURT finishes installing, copy (Ctrl + C) and paste (Ctrl + V) the contents of the SURT log into your next post please:

    C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.persist.log


Tom

Hi Tom,

I downloaded the file and extracted it as you said, but in my C:\Windows\Temp there are no folder called checksur. In fact there are no folders as you described. See the included file called error.
I downloaded the SURT, but I could not run it as the program claimed, that the windows update service is not installed. I think that this is the real problem.
Can you help?

Itpusher

Welcome to Sysnative :)

Please create all of the CheckSUR and other missing directories, and then place the files as described above.

Then we must work at getting SURT to run.

Please download FSS from here: Farbar Service Scanner Download

Put a check in every box, click "Scan", and post the log which opens.

Thank you!

Richard

Hi Richard,

please find included the logfile.
 

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Hi Tom,

I downloaded the file and extracted it as you said, but in my C:\Windows\Temp there are no folder called checksur. In fact there are no folders as you described. See the included file called error.
I downloaded the SURT, but I could not run it as the program claimed, that the windows update service is not installed. I think that this is the real problem.
Can you help?

Itpusher

Hi Itpusher,

A missing Windows Update service is just one of the factors contributing to your Windows Update failure, but a big one at that. Your CheckSUR log showed corrupt packages originating from KB2792100 which is an IE9 update which will be why IE9 is having issues.

@Richard, I have attached the registry export for all of those services if it helps. I haven't posted instructions yet as I wasn't sure how you wanted to deal with this. @Itpusher, for the time being, please ignore the attachment.

Tom
 

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Thanks Tom. Let's just import them, my tool still has a couple of weeks of work left yet :)

@itpusher: Please now download Tom's attached .zip file (the one attached to his latest post). Inside will be a single registry script. Please double click on it and choose Yes to import.

Then please repeat the procedure with FSS (to generate a new logfile, please upload),

and then ensuring that the files have been placed in the temp directory as described above, please try again with the System Update Readiness Tool.

Thank you!

Richard
 
Hi Richard/Tom,

I imported the registry keys as you told me.

I ran the FSS once more and atached the logfile.

Then I tried to run the Windows6.1-KB947821-v26-x64 I still got problems.

Plase advice.

Itpusher.
 

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Hi Richard/Tom,

I imported the registry keys as you told me.

I ran the FSS once more and atached the logfile.

Then I tried to run the Windows6.1-KB947821-v26-x64 I still got problems.

Plase advice.

Itpusher.

Hello again :)

Much better logfile! But...I forgot to include an important step in my instructions. Really sorry about that.

Please re-start your computer and try again. Should then work. Again, sorry for not mentioning this.

Richard
 
Hi Richard/Tom,

I imported the registry keys as you told me.

I ran the FSS once more and atached the logfile.

Then I tried to run the Windows6.1-KB947821-v26-x64 I still got problems.

Plase advice.

Itpusher.

Hello again :)

Much better logfile! But...I forgot to include an important step in my instructions. Really sorry about that.

Please re-start your computer and try again. Should then work. Again, sorry for not mentioning this.

Richard

Hi Richard,

I still get the error "The service is not running" when I try to windows udate and when I try to install the package Windows6.1-KB947821-v26-x64 I get the error '0x80070424'

I can't see this has helped.

Please let me knoe what to do.

Itpusher
 
Hi Itpusher,

Would you mind providing us with this information please:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    sc query BITS
    sc query wuauserv

  4. Right-click on the Command Prompt window and click Select All, this will invert all of the colours by selecting the text, now press enter. All of this text is now copied.
  5. Paste (Ctrl+V) it into your next post please.


Tom
 
Hi Itpusher,

Would you mind providing us with this information please:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    sc query BITS
    sc query wuauserv

  4. Right-click on the Command Prompt window and click Select All, this will invert all of the colours by selecting the text, now press enter. All of this text is now copied.
  5. Paste (Ctrl+V) it into your next post please.


Tom

Hi Tom,

I dident get much - see the attached file - sorry in Danish.

Itpusher
 

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Hi Itpusher,

To save others the time of downloading and translating the error, this was returned for both commands:

The specified service does not exist as an installed service

Can you open your start menu please, then type services.msc in the search box and click on it when it loads. Click Action > Export List and save this list to your Desktop, name it whatever you want, just make sure it's something easy to remember. Attach this list to your next post please.

Tom
 
Hi Itpusher,

To save others the time of downloading and translating the error, this was returned for both commands:

The specified service does not exist as an installed service

Can you open your start menu please, then type services.msc in the search box and click on it when it loads. Click Action > Export List and save this list to your Desktop, name it whatever you want, just make sure it's something easy to remember. Attach this list to your next post please.

Tom

Hi Tom,

the list is calles services.txt - I think I found some of the problems. I ran the program MicrosoftFixit50202 and got the error that the credentials was not right or the like. It appears that I'm lacking real administrator rights. I tried to add administrator using the common script in cmd running as administrator - same problems.

Can you see head or tail?

PS! sorry that the services are in Danish.

//Itpusher
 

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Hi Itpusher,

Strangely, the services aren't there, at all, yet they show in the FSS log. I've never seen anything like this before so I think it's best to have a look at the registry of those services before we continue:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    regedit /e %SYSTEMDRIVE%\tom982.txt "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services"

  4. This will create a text file called tom982.txt in the root folder of your main drive (e.g. C:\tom982.txt). Please attach this to your next post.


Tom
 
Hi Itpusher,

Strangely, the services aren't there, at all, yet they show in the FSS log. I've never seen anything like this before so I think it's best to have a look at the registry of those services before we continue:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    regedit /e %SYSTEMDRIVE%\tom982.txt "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services"

  4. This will create a text file called tom982.txt in the root folder of your main drive (e.g. C:\tom982.txt). Please attach this to your next post.


Tom

Hi Tom,

I have attached the registry file.

Itupsher.
 

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Hi Itpusher,

Strangely, the services aren't there, at all, yet they show in the FSS log. I've never seen anything like this before so I think it's best to have a look at the registry of those services before we continue:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    regedit /e %SYSTEMDRIVE%\tom982.txt "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services"

  4. This will create a text file called tom982.txt in the root folder of your main drive (e.g. C:\tom982.txt). Please attach this to your next post.


Tom

Hi Tom,

I have attached the registry file.

Itupsher.

Thank you for that.

Well, the services appear to have gone again.

A couple of possibilities. Either the damage extends beyond a single ControlSet, and a different ControlSet has been loaded, or something has actively/accidentally taken them out, possibly an infection, or they have become corrupt again (why??), or...something a little more complicated.

Please upload one more FSS report. Otherwise we might have to check your other control sets, although it seems a bit of a long shot, hence I would like a little more time to think.

Richard
 
Hi Itpusher,

Strangely, the services aren't there, at all, yet they show in the FSS log. I've never seen anything like this before so I think it's best to have a look at the registry of those services before we continue:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    regedit /e %SYSTEMDRIVE%\tom982.txt "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services"

  4. This will create a text file called tom982.txt in the root folder of your main drive (e.g. C:\tom982.txt). Please attach this to your next post.


Tom

Hi Tom,

I have attached the registry file.

Itupsher.

Thank you for that.

Well, the services appear to have gone again.

A couple of possibilities. Either the damage extends beyond a single ControlSet, and a different ControlSet has been loaded, or something has actively/accidentally taken them out, possibly an infection, or they have become corrupt again (why??), or...something a little more complicated.

Please upload one more FSS report. Otherwise we might have to check your other control sets, although it seems a bit of a long shot, hence I would like a little more time to think.

Richard

Hi Richard,

please find included a new FSS report. Are we at the edge of an reinstallation?

Regards

Itpusher
 

Attachments

Hi Itpusher,

Strangely, the services aren't there, at all, yet they show in the FSS log. I've never seen anything like this before so I think it's best to have a look at the registry of those services before we continue:

Command Prompt

Warning: this fix is specific to the user in this thread. No one else should follow these instructions as it may cause more harm than good. If you are after assistance, please start a thread of your own.


  1. Click on the Start
    Start%20Orb.jpg
    button and in the search box, type Command Prompt
  2. When you see Command Prompt on the list, right-click on it and select Run as administrator
  3. When command prompt opens, copy and paste the following commands into it, press enter after each

    regedit /e %SYSTEMDRIVE%\tom982.txt "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services"

  4. This will create a text file called tom982.txt in the root folder of your main drive (e.g. C:\tom982.txt). Please attach this to your next post.


Tom

Hi Tom,

I have attached the registry file.

Itupsher.

Thank you for that.

Well, the services appear to have gone again.

A couple of possibilities. Either the damage extends beyond a single ControlSet, and a different ControlSet has been loaded, or something has actively/accidentally taken them out, possibly an infection, or they have become corrupt again (why??), or...something a little more complicated.

Please upload one more FSS report. Otherwise we might have to check your other control sets, although it seems a bit of a long shot, hence I would like a little more time to think.

Richard

Hi Richard,

please find included a new FSS report. Are we at the edge of an reinstallation?

Regards

Itpusher

Thank you. And not quite yet...

We are on the edge of something quite interesting actually.

At first a whole load of services were missing. FSS saw them as all missing. Tom repaired them. Then FSS saw them all as repaired. Good! But then you restarted the computer and told me that WU was still broken. So we ran FSS again. And now FSS shows the services as broken again.

So...the services vanished again between Tom fixing them and you trying out Windows Update/over the computer restart would be the likely explanation.

So...where have they gone? A second time?

Well, either they have vanished into a second control set (in which case we will fix all of your control sets and that will be that), or you are (most likely) infected.

Please try the fix attached here: https://www.sysnative.com/forums/wi...s-update-not-running-win-7-x64.html#post42094

One more time. If they disappear again, I think our best bet would be to send you over to our Security Forum to get checked out. If it turns out not to be malware related, I will continue to help you with the other possibilities (such as the control set issues).

How does that sound?

Richard
 

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