[SOLVED] I have run SFCFix!!

[donetao]

Hi I have run the SFCFix. It found zero errors! What is my next step??
Thank you for your help!!

 

[Patrick]

What is my next step??

I presume nothing, considering it found no corruptions.

 

[donetao]

OK Thanks Patrick for your quick reply! I'm trying to learn these things! What did it check?? I know what a SFC /scannow does. Is this what SFCFix checked??
To see if my files were corrupted?? If my files were corrupted, would my next step be a system repair, if SFC /scannow couldn't fix my problem; then maybe a system restore. Hope I'm saying all this right. My computer language leaves a lot to be desired some times.
Thank you for your help Patrick!
I'm always trying to learn new things!

 

[Go The Power]

Hello,

Hi I have run the SFCFix. It found zero errors! What is my next step??
Thank you for your help!!

First, What is the issue your having?

OK Thanks Patrick for your quick reply! I'm trying to learn these things! What did it check??

At a very basic overview, SFCFix would of checked over CBS log for any errors and along with any issues inside the COMPONENTS registry hive.

I know what a SFC /scannow does. Is this what SFCFix checked??

What does a SFC scan do exactly?

would my next step be a system repair, if SFC /scannow couldn't fix my problem; then maybe a system restore

No, defiantly not, this would be a major overkill. Once of the helpers here would construct a fix to repair any corrupt/missing files,folders registry entries etc.

 

[donetao]

Ok Thanks Go The Power! Would not a system repair try to fix these errors. I have read that the system repair might need to be run 3 times to fix the errors(corrupted Files). Following the threads here on sysnative, it seems to me that you are doing when you have the OP repeat the SFCFix several times!
I have never had a problem with corrupted files, so I can't say that is true! I don't see how running system repair would be a over kill. Now restoring back to factory might be considered a over kill, however if a system repair can't solve the problem,then back to factory might be necessary
I don't have a problem that I know of Go The Power! I'm trying to learn these things so I can pass them forward here at Golden oaks.
Thank you for your reply. CBS logs are foreign to me and the registry hive also!
You are doing a great job here on sysnative.
Thank you for your time Go The Power!
I'm thinking we approach these things a little differently, but maybe very similar. My computer language leaves a lot to be desired!
I'm always ready to learn new things!
Gary!

 

[Go The Power]

I have read that the system repair might need to be run 3 times to fix the errors(corrupted Files).

This is a myth, if SFC failed to repair the file on the first time it will continue to fail over and over again.

it seems to me that you are doing when you have the OP repeat the SFCFix several times!

How closely have you followed a thread? SFCFix is a lot more than just a scanner, we also use SFCFix to also make all the required repairs. SFCFix is designed to safely repair correct files without leaving the system exploited to dodge security permissions tampering.

I'm thinking we approach these things a little differently, but maybe very similar.

How do you approach these?

 

[donetao]

I do not wish to start conflicts here. I'm not talking about running SFC /scannow three times. I'm talking about running system repair three times.
SFCFix is new to me. I'm not saying it's not a excellent program. I'm just saying it's all new to me. I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times. If it can't, then back to factory might be required. I have followed some of your threads and I would like to learn more.
My approach is this Microsoft link. There are a lot of things going on in this link. I admit I haven't researched every thing in this link, but there is a lot of good stuff in this link! I just ran the fixit for me and that was all I needed.
Thank you for your reply!

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/windows-update-issues/en-us

 

[niemiro]

I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times.

But why would it? If System Repair has a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file, it will repair the corrupt copy first time. If it doesn't have a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file it will fail every single time. It is a fallacy to think that running System Repair lots of times will help - it never will.

 

[Go The Power]

I do not wish to start conflicts here. I'm not talking about running SFC /scannow three times. I'm talking about running system repair three times.
SFCFix is new to me. I'm not saying it's not a excellent program. I'm just saying it's all new to me. I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times. If it can't, then back to factory might be required. I have followed some of your threads and I would like to learn more.

System repair as in a repair install? or system restore?

My approach is this Microsoft link. There are a lot of things going on in this link. I admit I haven't researched every thing in this link, but there is a lot of good stuff in this link! I just ran the fixit for me and that was all I needed.
Thank you for your reply!

I am guessing your talking about the Automated troubleshooter? TBH I have never asked a user to run this, the reason being is there is a lot of different scripts found within the file. I am not going to ask a user to run a a fix that I dont understand, what happens if it goes bad? The scripts I have looked at inside this FixIt seem pretty harmless, but a lot are rather generic. Not to say it is totally useless, I just have not found any use for it. This tool will not repair corrupt system files detected by SFC though.

 

[donetao]

I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times.

But why would it? If System Repair has a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file, it will repair the corrupt copy first time. If it doesn't have a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file it will fail every single time. It is a fallacy to think that running System Repair lots of times will help - it never will.

As I have stated in previous replies. Every help forum recommends running system repair at least 3 times. Why? I don't know! It seems to me it should repair the files the first time if it has a good copy of the file system. I'm the novice here! Why 3 times is recommended; I don't know?? One time should Get-er-done???
Thank you for your reply niemiro!

 

[donetao]

It's almost 4:00 Am in Oklahoma. I'm very tired. I'll pick this back up tomorrow.
I'm learning a lot, but this old brain is tired and needs a rest.
Thank you for everyone's replies!
This is the way I learn!! I will pass it forward!:hug:

 

[Go The Power]

I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times.

But why would it? If System Repair has a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file, it will repair the corrupt copy first time. If it doesn't have a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file it will fail every single time. It is a fallacy to think that running System Repair lots of times will help - it never will.

As I have stated in previous replies. Every help forum recommends running system repair at least 3 times. Why? I don't know! It seems to me it should repair the files the first time if it has a good copy of the file system. I'm the novice here! Why 3 times is recommended; I don't know?? One time should Get-er-done???
Thank you for your reply niemiro!

Can you provide some examples? I am very interested to see why these other forums are saying to do this.

 

[niemiro]

I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times.

But why would it? If System Repair has a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file, it will repair the corrupt copy first time. If it doesn't have a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file it will fail every single time. It is a fallacy to think that running System Repair lots of times will help - it never will.

As I have stated in previous replies. Every help forum recommends running system repair at least 3 times. Why? I don't know! It seems to me it should repair the files the first time if it has a good copy of the file system. I'm the novice here! Why 3 times is recommended; I don't know?? One time should Get-er-done???
Thank you for your reply niemiro!

Can you provide some examples? I am very interested to see why these other forums are saying to do this.

It's true actually - this advice is plastered all over the internet and is in relation to running SFC three+ times (I've seen some people say five) to allow it to fix all corruptions. It's simply become a case of the blind leading the blind though and there's no actual evidence to support this whatsoever. (*)

There is a vast amount of misinformation about SFC being plastered around. The problem is that it's one of those fairly simple tools with little documentation so everyone - even those with little clue - by necessity go DIY and then report their findings online with others copying what they did - but if they make errors, or do things in suboptimal ways, the information quickly spreads. I can't think of a single search term in any subject where the information is awash with more misinformation than for "SFC". This is precisely the reason why my first academy tutorial on SFC takes common myths and explains why they're wrong - most trainees come in with a lot of bad habits which need to be broken first - it isn't sufficient to merely post the correct methods.





(*) Actually, there is one extremely rare type of corruption where running SFC twice is necessary. But it's a one-in-a-million error I think I've only seen fewer than five times over all the years I've worked Windows Update.

 

[Go The Power]

I am really confused, when donetao says 'run System repair 3 times', he is not referring to SFC.....

I have read that the system repair might need to be run 3 times to fix the errors(corrupted Files).

]This is a myth, if SFC failed to repair the file on the first time it will continue to fail over and over again.

I do not wish to start conflicts here. I'm not talking about running SFC /scannow three times. I'm talking about running system repair three times.

I do not wish to start conflicts here. I'm not talking about running SFC /scannow three times. I'm talking about running system repair three times.
SFCFix is new to me. I'm not saying it's not a excellent program. I'm just saying it's all new to me. I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times. If it can't, then back to factory might be required. I have followed some of your threads and I would like to learn more.

System repair as in a repair install? or system restore?

I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times.

But why would it? If System Repair has a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file, it will repair the corrupt copy first time. If it doesn't have a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file it will fail every single time. It is a fallacy to think that running System Repair lots of times will help - it never will.

As I have stated in previous replies. Every help forum recommends running system repair at least 3 times. Why? I don't know! It seems to me it should repair the files the first time if it has a good copy of the file system. I'm the novice here! Why 3 times is recommended; I don't know?? One time should Get-er-done???
Thank you for your reply niemiro!

Can you provide some examples? I am very interested to see why these other forums are saying to do this.

 

[niemiro]

I am really confused, when donetao says 'run System repair 3 times', he is not referring to SFC.....

I have read that the system repair might need to be run 3 times to fix the errors(corrupted Files).

]This is a myth, if SFC failed to repair the file on the first time it will continue to fail over and over again.

I do not wish to start conflicts here. I'm not talking about running SFC /scannow three times. I'm talking about running system repair three times.

I do not wish to start conflicts here. I'm not talking about running SFC /scannow three times. I'm talking about running system repair three times.
SFCFix is new to me. I'm not saying it's not a excellent program. I'm just saying it's all new to me. I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times. If it can't, then back to factory might be required. I have followed some of your threads and I would like to learn more.

System repair as in a repair install? or system restore?

I'm thinking that system repair might make these repairs if run 3 times.

But why would it? If System Repair has a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file, it will repair the corrupt copy first time. If it doesn't have a good (uncorrupt) copy of the file it will fail every single time. It is a fallacy to think that running System Repair lots of times will help - it never will.

As I have stated in previous replies. Every help forum recommends running system repair at least 3 times. Why? I don't know! It seems to me it should repair the files the first time if it has a good copy of the file system. I'm the novice here! Why 3 times is recommended; I don't know?? One time should Get-er-done???
Thank you for your reply niemiro!

Can you provide some examples? I am very interested to see why these other forums are saying to do this.

I was slightly confused by that too. In the end I only skim read the thread and assumed a term confusion, i.e. that donetao meant SFC even though he said System Repair/misremembered/whatever. Advice to repeat that three times isn't so widely published.

But maybe that was precisely what he meant? I don't know.

In either case I believe that my post stands in both cases - that there is no benefit to running either three times, despite the fact that some people online may say to do so.

 

[donetao]

Hi! Had a good nights sleep! I'm talking about running system repair 3 times. I don't know why that's recommended on help forums. I just know that they say you might have to run system repair 3 times to fix all the system files that are corrupted. They also say you might have to have the installation CD to fix the files. I have the system repair CD that windows tells you to create the first time you turn on your PC. It has a repair feature. I have used that feature before, but I don't remember if it fixed the file system. It is my understanding that if your files are corrupted and they can't be fixed by system repair, you may have to restore back to factory. I'm the novice here guys. My computer language leaves a lot to be desired. I'm self taught and always learning and forgetting what I learned. If you say there's no benefit running the system repair 3 times, then you probably know better than those that recommend it.
I really appreciate your time. This is fascinating stuff to me. I don't have any problems that I know of. I'm just trying to learn about these things.
Thank you for your replies! I'll try to answer any questions you have! My hobby is helping seniors with their computers and printers and I need all the help I can get. There are 400+ seniors in my retirement village. Not all have computers, but I try to keep the ones in the library running for those that don't have their own PC's.

 

[donetao]

Hi! If I find a computer that won't down load Windows updates, I run SFC /scannow and chkdsk. I have had success with the Microsoft Fixit also.
If I'm understanding everyone, corrupted files can cause a PC to not down load windows updates???Some times I restart two or three times to see if windows will notify me about windows updates. Some times the up dates just decide to finally update and that really bugs me. Some times Microsoft puts out buggy updates. I try not to get to concerned if there is just one or two updates that won't down load.
Any way,this is good stuff and I'm learning new things.
Thanks for your help!!

 

[Aura]

Some times I restart two or three times to see if windows will notify me about windows updates. Some times the up dates just decide to finally update and that really bugs me. Some times Microsoft puts out buggy updates.

You can always check manually if there's Windows Updates that are ready to be downloaded and installed. If while you check manually, there's an error code, it can give you an indication that there might be file corruption somewhere. Here's the instructions I usually give for that.

Check for Windows Updates
Follow the instructions below to check for available Windows Updates and install them:

• Click on the Windows Start Menu and select Control Panel;[/*]
• From there, click on System and Security and select Windows Updates;[/*]
• Click on the Check for updates button in the left-pane;[/*]
• Wait for the scan to complete and see which updates are found, Recommended Updates and Recommended Updates (or Optional Updates);[/*]
• Click on X Important Updates (X being the number of updates being found) and make sure that they are all checked;[/*]
• Install every Important Updates found and restart your computer once it's done;[/*]

As for the "buggy" Windows Updates, it happens. Usually, the users are quite quick in identifying the buggy ones and warn the others about them. Once Microsoft gets the word of it, it either removes it or push a new update that will fix the broken one (but most often they'll remove it). Some forums, like BleepingComputer (I don't know about Sysnative) have a thread in the Windows section where they "monitor" the Windows Updates being pushed and comment of them. If one is phishy or buggy, it's usually posted in that thread really fast.

 

[donetao]

Hi Go The Power! I think if you check this link out, you will find it's very similar to the software you are using!!

Fix Microsoft Windows Update Issues

I am guessing your talking about the Automated troubleshooter? TBH I have never asked a user to run this, the reason being is there is a lot of different scripts found within the file. I am not going to ask a user to run a a fix that I dont understand, what happens if it goes bad? The scripts I have looked at inside this FixIt seem pretty harmless, but a lot are rather generic. Not to say it is totally useless, I just have not found any use for it. This tool will not repair corrupt system files detected by SFC thou

 

[donetao]

Hi Go The Power! Here's a dism log that Microsoft fixit put on my desk top! Makes no sense to me! It probably does to you
There are two logs!!
Thanks!!:thumbsup2: