View Poll Results: Which is your primary browser?

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  • Firefox

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  • Google Chrome

    28 31.46%
  • Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

    14 15.73%
  • MS Edge

    0 0%
  • PaleMoon

    0 0%
  • Opera

    3 3.37%
  • Safari

    1 1.12%
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Sticking with the old Opera. 15 is not an update to 12, and is not yet full featured. Hoping they don't screw up my favorite browser

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Yeah, it has a long way to come yet. Opera's user base isn't massive, but they have a very specific niche. I know they're trying to expand their user base, but until they add more features there isn't any reason to use Opera 15 over Chrome or another browser.
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
    Sticking with the old Opera. 15 is not an update to 12, and is not yet full featured. Hoping they don't screw up my favorite browser

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    I would have stayed with Opera 12, if it didn't crash as much as it does
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    Opera crashing was the main reason I switched to Chrome. I think for a long time Opera was the leader in new features and technology, but they've been outpaced now. Not sure whether their new browser will make much difference.
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Can count the number of time I have had Opera crash on 2 hands. Guess I've been lucky. A Guy

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    IE 11 I will admit is pretty descent. Smooth scrolling, fast page loading... In a while I'll see how much memory it uses over other browsers on my 8.1 install/upgrade. I've been using it since the day 8.1 preview was released, but I haven't done any testing yet. Just strictly a user perspective.
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Voted firefox.

    Used, IE (current latest version), Chrome and Firefox.

    I simply don't like IE, it just has too much information on screen.

    Chrome seems to have been the best performance wise, it was fast and efficient.

    Firefox, very close to Chrome performance wise, however, Firefox's extensions I find are far superior to Chrome's.

    I chose to switch from Chrome to Firefox for two reason...

    1. Firefox has superior extensions, they work really well.
    2. Google has some serious privacy issues, out of principle I'm not using Chrome.
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    I remember back in the day when Mozilla.org took Netscape Navigator and turned it into FireFox... At the time, FF was the fastest, least bloated, feature rich browser you could get. I have found that in recent years that FireFox has become bloated and slow.

    I am curious as to your assertion to Chrome's security. Could you provide me with an explanation and references?

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Netscape > Phoenix > Firebird > Firefox. Started with Phoenix and stayed all the way, currently using the latest FF 26.0.

    Here's the most recently reported Chrome but: Google Chrome Has a Bug That Lets Any Site Eavesdrop On You. One thing I don't like about Chrome is not having control over updates. Of course I install updates to the programs on my computer. However, I do it on my terms.

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Thanks Corrine,

    I get around the update issue by using Chrome Portable (Portable Apps . com / SourceForge). I am not a huge fan of automatic updating and kill all such processes and tasks upon the installation of any software.

    I also get to choose the directory that Chrome installs and use it on any account that has access to that location...

    Chrome is still my browser of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GZ View Post
    I remember back in the day when Mozilla.org took Netscape Navigator and turned it into FireFox... At the time, FF was the fastest, least bloated, feature rich browser you could get. I have found that in recent years that FireFox has become bloated and slow.

    I am curious as to your assertion to Chrome's security. Could you provide me with an explanation and references?
    I don't actually believe that chrome is flawed security wise. I simply recently saw them (Google) pop on the news a lot about their way of dealing with peoples data. I read a few articles about them being fined numerous times because of some privacy issues and how they didn't deal with it.

    I also read an article about how they used cookies in Safari to track people so they can more effectively aim adds at those people. If I remember correctly (never used a mac) Safari belongs to Apple and is used on most Apple macs. So they were fined something like $20million (which is pocket change for them obviously).

    On top of that they combined all user data from their different services, and apparently they never told their users about this intend and nor have they mentioned how this data will be used.

    I don't personally have a problem with them per say, but I just don't like how they deal with all this. Loosing in court and having to pay fine says you've done something wrong. Loosing court and paying fines 3 times just shows they're stubborn about how they go on about privacy and user data.

    It's like I said, its out of principle I'm not using chrome, I do miss it's performance, as it is noticeable between FF and Chrome, but the fact that Firefox's extensions work so much better makes it worth it. I do intend to start using Chrome again down the line when it looks like Google is taking the privacy issues seriously and doing something about it, instead of just being stubborn and happy with just paying the fines.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not a privacy paranoid person. I simply don't like their "just pay the fines so we can move on" attitude. In all I have read about this, there was no explanation from Google to why they made no improvements and allowed them selves to be taken to court and fined 3 times regarding user privacy and user and data. However, I did not do any research in this, so I could be mistaken about a few things or missing some information.
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    Compared to Chrome and IE, Firefox is much less secure. It lacks the ability to sandbox processes, multi-process containers, and the ability to use integrity levels on any OS that is Vista and onward. It runs in the context of the user with no additional OS security support. I'm still using Firefox simply because I've been using it since it was a little dinosaur and it was called Mozilla, and because I really love NoScript.... but I think about changing to IE often.

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Compared to Chrome and IE, Firefox is much less secure. It lacks the ability to sandbox processes, multi-process containers, and the ability to use integrity levels on any OS that is Vista and onward. It runs in the context of the user with no additional OS security support. I'm still using Firefox simply because I've been using it since it was a little dinosaur and it was called Mozilla, and because I really love NoScript.... but I think about changing to IE often.
    Regardless, IE still loves to pretend to be Firefox. There's other things about Firefox that I still find to be more secure than IE and chrome however... It's really a juggle between the browsers, and this is why I wish, sometimes, that the best of the best could all be incorporated into one "thing". Doesn't always work that way though.
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    So should I upgrade to IE11 on Windows 7 x64 I have heard some not good things about IE11. Though my main Browser is Firefox 26 and still have Opera 12.16 and will not use Chrome and will not upgrade to the Chromium based Opera. IE10 is great but can decide if to upgrade to IE11 on Win 7????????

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triple Helix View Post
    So should I upgrade to IE11 on Windows 7 x64 I have heard some not good things about IE11. Though my main Browser is Firefox 26 and still have Opera 12.16 and will not use Chrome and will not upgrade to the Chromium based Opera. IE10 is great but can decide if to upgrade to IE11 on Win 7????????

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    I run IE11 on Windows 7 x64 as my main browser. I would say that you definitely should upgrade, personally, as it's more secure and more standards compliant.

    As for running into the problems people talk of, my personal experience has been a very good one. I have so far found one website which doesn't display properly in IE11, but did in IE10, and the compatibility mode fix described at the bottom of this page: Missing the Compatibility View Button

    resolved it all in under a minute. As for the upgrade installation issues, they are extremely rare, and I'll happily help you fix up any you do run into over in the Windows Update forum.

    So yes, I would advise the upgrade. You can always downgrade it necessary, but personally I think it will be unnecessary as long as you know the compatibility mode procedure to fix any one or two websites which are broken.

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    I haven't had any problems with IE11 either.
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    Hi guys,

    Thought I'll share this link with you guys regarding Chrome and its Speech Recognition Software.
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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Thanks for the info on Browser security. It is something I keep in the back of my head but not at the forefront. My main focus is overall browser performance.

    Firefox doesn't appeal to me. I don't use many browser plug-ins, add-ons or BHOs. 99% of any of the above are uninstalled or disabled. Its overall performance and appearance is lacking IMHO. I do, occasionally, install the latest version to check out changes firsthand.

    Opera is okay but there is something about it that I just don't like. One of those things I can't put a finger on.

    I use IE and always keep it fully upgraded. I find it is great for browsing the inter-webs and will display most content without issue.

    I dislike most Apple products to begin with and this bias has kept me from even considering the use of Safari.

    Other open source browsers I have used (in the order of favorite to least favorite) include - Chromium (Open Source Chrome), Konqueror, Penguin (Mobile), K-Meleon and Sea Monkey.

    There is a browser someone told me recently about that I cannot remember the name of that I wanted to try... I have also been meaning to check out SRWare Iron but haven't had the time.

    As for my favorite (most used) browser... It is Chrome. I have yet to find a browser that satisfies my need for a simple, quick and easy surfing experience like Chrome does. I, like most of you, do not like tracking, automatic updating and separate running processes (Google Updater, etc.) so I have switched to the portable version. Another bonus of the portable version is I can run multiple (separate) instances of the browser simultaneously.

    The nicest thing about the selection of browsers out there is that we all have options. I remember back when I first started playing with the internet there were only 3 real options for the Windows Platform... Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator (in their many ISP flavored incarnations).

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    Re: Which Browser Is Most Popular at Sysnative?

    Opera wasn't bad last time I used it. It had some quirks though.
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