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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Thanks for your continuing input Digerati which is not being wasted as has been assigned to my "personal memory banks".

    Based on what you say I will move my Minimum UPS intervention to 185 or higher if that does not intervene excessively. That admittedly may strain the UPS more but would protect the PSU & PC more as well.

    My Voltage at 1:30PM lunchtime today (Sunday) was Voltage 220V positive and Ground. On a week day I'd expect the Voltage to be up near 230V, which is the official Thai supply Voltage (although its interesting that the old 220V is still thought of as the norm by many). Negative to Ground 6V measured. Not ideal, but relatively usual here as the electricity company seldom grounds to the electrical Pole's grounding rod (if there is one) and a ground to the house from it supplies. Many households have no grounding grounding, others (like me) use a 2-3 metre copper rod driven into the soil but its effectiveness varies with how dry the soil is and to what depth. We are deep into the hot season day temps 34C to 43 C and night temps are around 24C. we have only seen a little rain for an hour or so about a week ago in many weeks.

    I thought PSUs operating on 220-250V were capable to dealing with quite a siazable drop in Voltage, especially if they have a PFC (mine I believe has a passive PFC which I appreciate is not as good as an active PFC) and that those dealing with 110V mains supply were less capable of dealing with large drops in voltage. By what you say I am mistaken. On the PSU box it says (for whatever its worth) under heading "Industrial Standard protection for your critical components" it lists Over-Voltage, Under Voltage, Over-current, Overloading and short Circuit Protection.

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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    others (like me) use a 2-3 metre copper rod driven into the soil but its effectiveness varies with how dry the soil is and to what depth.
    Grounding rods are driven to that depth to ensure moisture from rain does not affect good grounding. At that depth, it is more about the Earth itself - sand content, for example. In sandy regions, it is not uncommon to have several ground rods surrounding the house, then a ground wire bonded to each rod to form a good common ground around the house. Beyond that, it is all about proper bonding to that rod from each outlet in the house. This is often where problems occur.

    It sounds like you know what you are doing and have a healthy respect for the voltage - a good thing. I still keep handy and recommend every computer user have access to a AC Outlet Tester to ensure your outlet is properly wired and grounded. They make them for every voltage and plug configuration, (like this one for the UK), I just don't know how easy they are to find in Thailand. Most home improvement stores carry them for the connectors used in their region.
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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    I used to use AC Outlet tester plugs in UK often - Very Useful and eady to use and understand, but have not been able to find any such items here. I now rely on a Multimeter and for my two PC I have a Toshino 4 and 5 plug surge protector power boards (bars). I do not plug my APC UPS in as the surge protection of the two may conflict with each other to some degree. The plug adapter bar also has two LED lights, one green one red which operate very similarly to the indicators on AC Outlet tester (only totally correct combination is Green on Red Off. (due to Ground not being Zero I am used to the Red glowing very slightly (cannot be seen in daylight or lighted room as on 3-6V normally). Both on means no ground. (I think Red on green off is reversed Live and Neutral connection.


    Unfortunately my adapter's (the much newer one) Green LED light has failed but I can see the RED one and it that glows too brightly then I know negative to ground Volts have moved up from the usual 3-6V range. I suppose I should get a new one but it works fine and they are not particularly cheap (and in my opinion although not low quality I believe not the highest quality either as I have found them rather fragile. I have yet to find a different or better make sold here.

    To be honest there are a lot of very poor quality plugs, sockets and adapters etc. sold here. Many plug sockets (extension sockets using what looks and feels like thick tin, very easy to bend and poor at springing back into place when plugs are removed. As a result, plugs are often wobbly in their sockets after only a few inserts and removals. I insisted on all my house's grounded wall sockets being made by Panasonic coz I trusted that known Worldwide brand quality which was available locally). After nearly 10 years of use, it was a good decision as all sockets are still good and hold plugs tightly. Not saying there are not other quality brands here, but I knew of Panasonic and knew their products would be of acceptable good quality.

    If you are interested Digerati take a quick look at This is the Pathumthani (don't be worried about link which is OK, although it shows "This is the Pathumthani" which is just the person's new server name) and you will see what I try to avoid and some things that can easily fool the unwary or those with a basic understanding of electrical safety (and judging by the many recommended "so called" electricians who have come to quote or do small jobs I know a lot more than them (and often have more tools as well).



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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Yeah, I have spent a lot of time in many different countries (though never Thailand) and seen some pretty poor quality outlets. Makes you wonder how more people are not zapped.

    As for your link, I am never worried. I always check before clicking to make sure I know where it is going. Note with most browser, if you hover over a link, the real address show up in the status bar.
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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Must admit I have never seen a title appear instead of the link's URL in any links I have posted in posts before so it took me by surprise and I initially feared a link high-jack.

    When I was composing my post only the usual URL was showing, but once committed to the Forum I noticed that the URL address had been replaced by the title. I immediately hit the edit button and rechecked until I was satisfied the link was safe, otherwise I would have removed it. I have often posted with the Site Owner on a major Thai Forum for English speakers and he has always been amazingly helpful on electrical matters, not only for me but many others and is much trusted and respected on that Forum. When I saw his home page referring to the new server I knew all was OK.

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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Must admit I have never seen a title appear instead of the link's URL
    Many sites will resolve the link to a title automatically. I don't always like it, but you can typically edit it, if need be. And the real URL appears at the bottom of most browsers (though you may have to have the Status Bar enabled).
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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Quote Originally Posted by Digerati View Post
    Must admit I have never seen a title appear instead of the link's URL
    Many sites will resolve the link to a title automatically. I don't always like it, but you can typically edit it, if need be. And the real URL appears at the bottom of most browsers (though you may have to have the Status Bar enabled).
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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    I live and learn
    That's why we are all here! :)
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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Quote Originally Posted by DKO View Post
    Hi All , I'm hoping someone can resolve this for me as having searched the Web I cannot find any salient topics.

    OS: Windows 10 Pro (x64) Ver 1607 (Build 14393.693)

    In recent weeks when I go to C Drive Properties> Disc Disk Clean-up I see approx. 0.98GB as here (which reduces to 0.97GB if I click on clean-up button ). When I go to View Files it is empty.

    Many Thanks
    I realize this is mostly resolved, but this thread caught my attention because I recently experienced something similar with Temporary files. Deleting all files manually from %userprofile%/Appdata/local/temp fixed my issue. I suspect it may have been due to recovering my system from a system image and the temp files not being fully recovered, resulting in a Windows database conflict when reporting the directory size.

    Could your issue have been caused by a system image restore or even just a system restore?
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    Re: Disk Clean-up shows 0.98GB of Temporary Internet Files BUT View Files shows NO FI

    Quote Originally Posted by writhziden View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DKO View Post
    Hi All , I'm hoping someone can resolve this for me as having searched the Web I cannot find any salient topics.

    OS: Windows 10 Pro (x64) Ver 1607 (Build 14393.693)

    In recent weeks when I go to C Drive Properties> Disc Disk Clean-up I see approx. 0.98GB as here (which reduces to 0.97GB if I click on clean-up button ). When I go to View Files it is empty.

    Many Thanks
    I realize this is mostly resolved, but this thread caught my attention because I recently experienced something similar with Temporary files. Deleting all files manually from %userprofile%/Appdata/local/temp fixed my issue. I suspect it may have been due to recovering my system from a system image and the temp files not being fully recovered, resulting in a Windows database conflict when reporting the directory size.

    Could your issue have been caused by a system image restore or even just a system restore?
    I am so sorry about such a late reply. I stopped monitoring this thread when issue resolved. I too had some issues with Temporary files at one time resolved months ag0) and I honestly do not believe the two issues are related.

    With my issue I tried so many things and none worked, except the solution I eventually found and posted.

    With regard to a backup and restore possibly being part of the problem. I can only advise that my issue was quite recent and yet I have been using Aomei Backupper standard (free version) since Windows 10 first came out to backup up my C: drive. So I do not believe it is involved. Additionally, it backups up everything (except free space) and when it restores it replaces everything that what was on C: Drive (except free space) when the backup was made (its not like Windows Restore feature that does not back up and restore everything. Consequently any temp files that existed would have been backed up in full and restored again if a restore was run. I have not used Windows Restore or even had it enabled for years due to its incomplete backup of my C: (System) drive.

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