Windows Update Fails to Install Win Defender Sign Updates in Win Vista Starter 32 bit

Bright Future · Jun 16, 2019

Windows Update fails to install Windows Defender Sign Updates in Win Vista Starter 32 bit. It identifies, downloads the Win Defender sign update but fails to install. Any other update pertaining to Windows OS, it successfully installs. If Windows Defender Sign updates are manually downloaded and installed offline then it gets installed but not via Win Update.The error in failed Win defender sign update is 80070003,80070643,80024022,8024200B,80070005, 80248014. After running ReImage Repair Tool, error 80070003 remains. All manual repairs for error 80070003 are done as well as MSFixit 50202 run in both regular and aggressive mode, but in vain. There seems to be no error in .net Framework installations either.Last .net installed is 4.6 version. So far tried all cleaning for leftovers, antispyware, antivirus, antiadware, etc but error remains. Tried CMD prompt to remove and install Win defender updates also but same error.

Run sfc /scannow -- No integrity violations found. But after sfc check, the pendingrenames folder gets 744 plus files listed in it. Deleted it later to keep PC clean.
Run SURT -- Result is not fully understood. No errors but something is recreated.... see the file attached. Checkdisk always shows atleast 24 files cleaned.

What could be the error and how to get repair it? This error started 2-3 months ago, I thought it will be okay after manually installing the updates but everytime manually installing updates is an indication that something is not working.See the files attached.

Please guide. Thanks.

Sysnative Windows Update · Jun 24, 2019

Hello and welcome!

Please start with the following:

GSmartControl
Follow the instructions below to check your SMART status with GSmartControl:

Download the portable version of GSmartControl and save it on your Desktop;
Extract the zip file to your Desktop. Open the folder gsmartcontrol-1.1.3-win32 which should be located on your Desktop and double-click gsmartcontrol.exe to launch the program.
Identify your drive in the list (if recognized by the tool), and hover your mouse over it.
You should see something called: SMART status. It will either read: Enabled, in which case you should do the following:
Double-click on it to bring up its window (usually you'll find your drive by its size or its brand name);
Go to the Self-Tests tab, then select Extended Self-test in the Test type drop-down list and click on Execute (this test can take a few hours to complete);
Once the test is over, the results will be displayed at the bottom of the window. Please copy and paste these results in your next reply or take a screenshot;
Also, go in the Attributes tab and if you have any entries highlighted in red or pink, take a screenshot of the GSmartControl window and attach it in your next reply;
Please note: If the SMART Status reads: Unsupported, stop and let me know.

Bright Future · Jul 6, 2019

Done as instructed. Self test - Extended cannot run. Attributes screenshot attached. What next?

Sysnative Windows Update · Jul 6, 2019

Your drive is failing. You need to replace it. That is the root cause of your issue.

Bright Future · Jul 9, 2019

I doubt it. Other updates get installed but only windows defender update has problems.
Hard drive selectively fails when Win defender updates are to be installed that too via Windows Update and not when done manually?

Something wrong with MS servers, is what I was expecting to hear.....

Do you still stand by your diagnostic analysis ? Or there are unsigned drivers installed and Vista Startup has got -- Enabled Driver verification enforcement -- upon startup / boot and it then appears as a hard drive issue....

Whenever I start PC, many a times it goes to verify hardware monitor.... verify DMI... building DMI.... AMD MBI.... etc and never ends , till I restart PC... if all goes well it comes to desktop screen or else it ends with a blu dump screen A5 , 11 , etc error... It gets well upon restart. This particular bluedump was and is now and then due to unverified or unsigned driver (of Antivirus) and many programs which earlier used to get installed and run upon start up are blocked by Win defender. Surely something is going on at MS server and although Vista is not supported, some good work is being done constantly at MS servers. It is not supported by MS but it is not abandoned by neither MS nor Vista users like me. It is good OS...... we hold on as long as hardware supports it. And you say Hard Drive is failing?!!!

Rethink...review...re-analyse... Hard drive may be available in store ... bit will a new hard drive solve the issue?

Let me know before I buy. Thanks.

Sysnative Windows Update · Jul 9, 2019

It's most definitely not the MS Servers. It's the hardware error on your machine. Since the HDD is damaged, it would be unwise to clone this to a new drive. As such, I would recommend you backup your important data (if not done already) and buy a new hard drive (an SSD would be even better if you can afford it) and switch to Windows 10. Vista had already reached EOL two years ago and Win7 will reach it in 6 months. I cannot reliably fix the machine knowing that there is a bad HDD. If any WU problems persist after you perform the upgrade and a fresh install of Windows, we can diagnose them.

Bright Future · Jul 9, 2019

I have made a test again. The result shows overall health as OK/passed despite 3 pink lines.... no red line.

I am not at all fond of Win 10. It looks dumb. Win XP was best. Win Vista was sturdy. Win 7 was the last, MS will ever be remembered for. Win 10 is for new generation to re-invent the wheel. It will never be the same again.

So far no back up is made for data.

Anyway, see the screenshots attached.

You run any Disk Analysis it will always show damaged disk.... on any PC including brand new PC. These programs are meant to show damaged disk. It only looks like a way to advertise to buy a new disk... and then if problem persists, upgrade to latest windows ...10 and then if problem persists ... wait for an update patch...and then if problem persists ... you will never know till you lose all data ... this is computer technology of the day..... By the time you learn to use it , it is junk because the manufacturer got exposed that he was selling an unfinished product... a junk... both in software and hardware. The cost of R&D is at user's expense.

I consider you as an expert. Now you only tell me..... what to do.... if I wish to stay with Vista.

Your word will be taken as final. No arguments from my side. Thanks.

Sysnative Windows Update · Jul 9, 2019

We all have a particular OS we like best and that's okay. After you replace the hard drive you can use the DVD media that came with the computer. If you do not posses one, contact your local IT support person in order to source one (should they have it). I cannot provide you with one as that would be a violation of copyright. MS would tell you to switch to something more modern, which is what I've suggested as well. Since you want to stay with Vista, you have to source the disk from a friend or look online if someone is selling them (has leftover copies in an authorized MS shop).

I have to disagree with your statement about the software always showing failing HDDs. It most certainly does not. Its main aim is to help users diagnose bad HDD in order to help them backup their data in time so they do not lose any, not to falsely and inaccurately make them believe something is broken when in fact it is not. If that were the case, they'd be out of business momentarily.

Modern technology is constantly going to move forward and require upgrades in order to keep working. That's how things work in the world of technology. It has nothing to do with the manufacturer's unwillingness to help/improve its software. They all do, and especially Microsoft by regularly releasing patches for its software.

All in all, you need to replace the drive and then source a genuine Vista DVD, with which you can perform a fresh install of Windows and later activate it with your licence key.

Bright Future · Jul 10, 2019

Thank you for clearing the air. What gives you the impression that I do not have genuine Vista installation CD? I have a genuine Vista installation CD and LIFETIME License key. Vista was marketed in third world to curb piracy. I support it. That is what makes me fond of Vista. MS made a hurry to hit the market before Project LongHorn was to be given last final touches otherwise it is the best OS in making. Further Windows Live Essentials, Messenger, etc features trying to fit in Social Media in to computers made the OS full of clutters. Technology and competition many a times takes a toll on users. We are all fond of technology....
Your word is taken as final. Drive will be new .....

Sysnative Windows Update · Jul 10, 2019

I was not implying that it wasn't genuine. I simply said that you would need to source one yourself in case you did not have one. If you have it, that's even better. Good luck with the replacement.

Bright Future · Jul 28, 2019

Yes. As you instructed, changed over to SSD. Re-installed Windows Vista Starter 32 Bit from CD - Genuine. Windows Update took me all the way till full updates. But upon full update we get to see the same problem--- Windows Defender Updates are not coming. See the screenshot. Now tell me is something not going on at MS servers? Only manual updates to Win Defender gets through successfully but not via Win Update or Win Defender check for updates. Now what is wrong? My guess is MS servers have a problem since April 2019.

Alright, now that was too much to begin with.....

Now, the errors within my PC--

See the Autoruns Yellow Highlighted items (total 3). These are missing files. Something wrong here.... What to do? Sfc and chkdsk says no problem found.
What do you say?

And yes ... Vista Starter is not accepting freewares it earlier used to accept. Any change in system configuration and it goes for hardware monitoring, then verifying DMI pool.... then AMD changes in Data .... Building DMI ... then if all goes well starts or else... gives a bluedump with error A5, 11, 6, 0, 0... saying BIOS is not fully ACPI compliant...Run System Repair with OS disk.... cannot repair... went for system Restore... successful...came to this stage (as reporting)....at times also did MBR rebuild successfully via system repair with OS Disk...via CMD prompt.....

Got hardware checked by Techie (not a friend...paid fees), says all is OK. I noticed SSD & CD-ROM Drives show itself in Taskbar icon for Safe Removal (internal disks never used to show itself for safe removal). What is going on? Did I not set the things properly.... the device Manager is without a yellow mark or any other mark.

Save Vista, save Hardware..... don't just use & throw! Repair & maintain.

Lets get to the bottom of this problem and solve it. There is something in it to learn here...... about technology...

Sysnative Windows Update · Jul 28, 2019

Nope. It's not MS Servers. You seem to be convinced it is and there is simply no evidence of anything like that. If that were the case, millions if not billions of people would be complaining about the issue.

The message about rdpclip not being found is normal as it is a part of clipboard copying feature which is not available in all Vista versions (Starter is unsupported).

The rest of the files are normal and even covered in the Sysinternals Administrators Reference as typical of Vista systems.

The fact that you are still experiecing BSODs likely means there is still something wrong. We will find out what in your BSOD thread.

The drives showing up as removable means that your BIOS settings are likely incorrect or there is an incorrect setting in your registry: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3083627/internal-sata-drives-show-up-as-removeable-media

Bright Future · Jul 28, 2019

------The fact that you are still experiecing BSODs likely means there is still something wrong. We will find out what in your BSOD thread.

The drives showing up as removable means that your BIOS settings are likely incorrect or there is an incorrect setting in your registry: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3083627/internal-sata-drives-show-up-as-removeable-media -----------

The above registry changes are not done as it refers to Win 7 and not to Win Vista..... Waiting for your go ahead...

Sysnative Windows Update · Jul 28, 2019

I'll post in your BSOD thread for now.

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