Win 7 Update Failure (and Workaround?)

Crippo2

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OK here is the skinny and my possible workaround.

Background
I recently completed a clean installed Windows7Pro (64Bit) on a newly decommissioned server. Having upgraded my main server (S1) to Windows Server 2016 Essentials, MS licensing would no longer allow another Server operating system on my Domain, thus the change to Win 7 (S2).

S2 does 2 things. It hosts our email server (hMailserver which is not designed to run on more recent operating systems unless using MS SQL (unnecessarily large and complex for me)) and all our Audio/Visual Media, on a RAID 5 setup.

Security is provided by MS Defender and a paid for version of MalwareBytes

S2 only voluntarily accesses the internet to securely (TLS/SSL) receive and send emails and to receive updates to both Defender and MalwareBytes.

As I understand it (and this is/was not my day job) Win 7, once it has been brought up to date after the initial install, is not longer actively supported by MS, except for security updates.

Problem
Update KB4519976 fails with error 0824200D. And, being entirely optimistic about the outcome of its next installation attempt, it tries and fails to repeat its install several times a day!. I have tested S1 (SFC/DISM/SFCFix). It passes all of them. All other updates (including those which need to be installed before KB4519976) are in the system.

My Workaround.
Firstly, after stopping the BITs and WU services I renamed the %windows%SoftwareDistribution Directory to %windows%SoftwareDistribution-old. This renders the list of previously installed updates inaccessible to the system.

I then Restarted the 2 services and after choosing the 'look for updates but let me choose what to download and install' option in WU, I sent the system off to MS to look for updates. Only the failed update was listed as missing.

My view is that with Malwarebytes involved in security and with the very limited access to the internet I only need to check weekly on the WU situation, choose what I need to download and install and remain adequately protected.

Any thought/caveats from the Gurus?​
 
As I understand it (and this is/was not my day job) Win 7, once it has been brought up to date after the initial install, is not longer actively supported by MS, except for security updates.
Microsoft releases security updates for Windows 7 only to companies that pay for Extended Security Updates (ESU)
In my opinion running a Mail Server on a unsupported OS is a very bad idea! Due to the way mail servers work they are exposed to the internet and frequent targets by bad actors.


About the problem installing the updates, make sure you have those installed:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/c..._b5614c6cea5cb4e198717789633dca16308ef79c.msu

http://download.windowsupdate.com/c..._d3de52d6987f7c8bdc2c015dca69eac96047c76e.msu
 
Microsoft releases security updates for Windows 7 only to companies that pay for Extended Security Updates (ESU)
Then presumably I can just ignore WU requests entirely?

In my opinion running a Mail Server on a unsupported OS is a very bad idea! Due to the way mail servers work they are exposed to the internet and frequent targets by bad actors.
I accept that using an unsupported Op Sys might not be the best idea (just think though of the millions of XP machines still running and that the sale of Win 7 licences is expanding), but having said that and taking into account that the product is static and has few of the security disadvantages of Windows 10, I am content with the balance of stability against risk.
I do not think my email server is exposed to the internet other than through connecting to my email host service (which does the receive from, and send out to, ROW), which my server does securely (TLS/SSL) I do not squirt my SMTP out to the internet.
How, in these circumstances is my server exposed?
Thanks for this but both are already installed
 
Without an MSU license WU will stop offering Windows 7 security updates.

If your mail server is not a "real" mail server that delivers and receives mail to/from other mail servers then the risk is lower.

Did you try to install the updates or checked the list of installed updates?

The first link is for a newer version of the update so make sure you try to install it even if its on the list of installed updates.

The last free updates for Windows 7 are 2020-01
 
Without an MSU license WU will stop offering Windows 7 security updates.
That is good to know - I can turn off all WU requests
If your mail server is not a "real" mail server that delivers and receives mail to/from other mail servers then the risk is lower.
My server setup delivers to and receives emails from one specific email server run by my ISP, so yes it is 'real' but the setup is heavily restrictive - for security purposes it is not exposed to the Wild West of the internet.
Did you try to install the updates or checked the list of installed updates?
I did & was told that they were already installed. There is no process I know of which enables me to tell the pc to install over the top of an update it tells me is already installed.
The first link is for a newer version of the update so make sure you try to install it even if its on the list of installed updates.

The last free updates for Windows 7 are 2020-01
Good to know & thanks for the help in this. I have more confidence in the stance I have taken
 

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