Temmu Well-known member Joined Apr 18, 2012 Posts 436 Location far reaches of the galaxy, but you knew that... Nov 14, 2012 #1 starting this topic to see whose security hole is bigger. i bet i win. upnp considered a boon to sharing, first data, and now hardware management. its goal is to connect everything to everything even (especially) across the internet. upnp site - http://upnp.org/ hundreds of major companies love it - http://upnp.org/membership/list/ upnp on windows on xp, it is correctly listed in add/remove windows components, network devices, upnp user interface - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941206 in vista/7/8 microsoft has cleverly hidden the word "upnp" and replaced it with "network discovery" this link shows that, and how to en/dis able it - http://windows.micro...twork-discovery so... what's wrong with a little discovery? this guy, http://www.upnp-hacks.org/contact.html - wrote this - http://www.upnp-hacks.org/upnp.html about upnp. plenty to read on his site. open wrt (some of us use that on routers, yes?) has this coment on upnp http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/upnp (near bottom) "As UPnP provides no authentication mechanisms, it is commonly regarded as one giant security hole." steve gibson on upnp (old article, utility still works!) http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm ok, your turn, is your hole bigger?