[SOLVED] System completely turns off when starting Diablo IV

Devilmoon

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Apologies in advance if this is not the right section of the forum, I know this is not really a BSOD but it seemed the most relevant section nonetheless.
Been playing D4 since launch day without any issues, then a couple nights back while running a dungeon my PC suddenly turned off and restarted itself.
At that point I went into the BIOS to check if any overheating had occurred, but the temps in the system were all averaging 60 °C.
Then I tried logging back into Windows, but as soon as I entered my password the pc would turn off (hard turn off, not a soft reboot) and turn itself on again, rinse and repeat.
I spent the night trying to troubleshoot but in the end I had to do a full recovery through the Windows troubleshooting options that you can access at boot time (both startup repair and roll back to a system restore point failed).
After that I quickly reconfigured the bare bones apps I run on Windows and left the pc on for the whole night and day after.
Yesterday, as soon as I tried starting Diablo again (think as soon as the blizzard logo comes up) the pc AGAIN turned completely off and then back on again. Same deal as the day before, no windows troubleshooting option works and as soon as I try logging in it turns off and on again.
After I went through the recovery process again and tried to test Diablo, the PC quickly turned off and this time the crash loop got extremely more severe, where the system would have power for ~1s before shutting itself off again.
During the day I tried a bunch of things, none of which worked, and I resigned myself to the idea that my CPU was dead (seeing that the debug LED on the motherboard for the CPU came on while the system had power). I started the RMA process with Intel to get it swapped, but then I just tried resetting the CMOS as a last attempt before pulling the CPU out and lo and behold the system came to life again.

After that I updated my BIOS to the latest version and set everything up again, tested first without a GPU installed and ran Prime 95 (no problems)
I then attached the GPU and ran Furmark, again no problem.
I reinstalled Diablo 4, and as soon as I got to the character screen the PC turned off on its own once again.

At the very least this time I'm not stuck in a crash loop and was able to get to the Event viewer in Windows, and this is what I found:

Event with ID 41, Kernel-Power, at level Critical:

Code:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

Right before that one there is another Kernel-Power event (at level informational) with ID 125, with the following contents:

Code:
ACPI thermal zone \_TZ.TZ00 has been enumerated.             
_PSV = 0K             
_TC1 = 0             
_TC2 = 0             
_TSP = 0ms             
_AC0 = 353K             
_AC1 = 328K             
_AC2 = 323K             
_AC3 = 318K             
_AC4 = 313K             
_AC5 = 0K             
_AC6 = 0K             
_AC7 = 0K             
_AC8 = 0K             
_AC9 = 0K             
_CRT = 378K             
_HOT = 0K             
minimum throttle = 0             
_CR3 = 0K

I can guess this is related to temperatures, and all those 0s are kinda worrying me, but I cannot find anything that explains in detail what these values are supposed to be. I tried googling around and found other people who have their PC shutting off semi-randomly and also find some variation of this event in their Event Viewers, but none of the posts I found have a definitive answer as to what's going on.
Unfortunately there appears to be no minidump in C:\Windows to explore the issue any further (I imagine that's because the system does a hard turn off).

At this point I really don't know what I can do. Should I just go ahead with the RMA? Unfortunately I don't have another compatible mobo/CPU to test a different combination of hardware and single out the CPU being the culprit
 
Hi. . .

Event with ID 41, Kernel-Power, at level Critical:

The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first
This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

99%+ of all BSODs are accompanied by a KP-41 event message. It means the electric power was cut or the system crashed (BSOD). It also means that the user did not initiate a normal system shutdown via the Power Menu.

Since no BSOD dump file was produced, either your system shut down to protect itself from melting (~kidding) + possible OS corruption due to uber high temperatures or the system somehow lost electrical power.

Laptop? Desktop? Have you cleaned it lately with canned compressed air to blow the dust out of it?

Regardless, please follow @ubuysa's instructions so the various system files can be analyzed.

Regards. . .

jcgriff2
 
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Attaching the zip here, also adding more info according to that thread:
  • A brief description of your problem (but you can also include the steps you tried)
    • In the OP
  • System Manufacturer?
    • N/A, not a prebuilt
  • Laptop or Desktop?
    • Desktop
  • Exact model number (if laptop, check label on bottom)
    • N/A
  • OS ? (Windows 11, 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista)
    • Windows 11
  • x86 (32bit) or x64 (64bit)?
    • X64
  • (Only for Vista, Windows 7) Service pack?
    • N/A
  • What was original installed OS on system?
    • Windows 10
  • Is the OS an OEM version (came pre-installed on system) or full retail version (YOU purchased it from retailer)?
    • Full retail
  • Age of system? (hardware)
    • Varying age, oldest are HDDs which have a decent number of years on them. 16GB of RAM are also older than most of the system. The other 16GB, GPU, CPU, Cooler, Fans, Mobo, SSDs all have between 1 year and 6 months
  • Age of OS installation?
    • Did a fresh recovery due to this issue
  • Have you re-installed the OS?
    • Yes
  • CPU
    • Intel i5 13600k
  • RAM (brand, EXACT model, what slots are you using?)
    • Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 MHz, 4x8GB, using all slots on mobo
  • Video Card
    • Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC
  • MotherBoard - (if NOT a laptop)
    • MSI PRO z790-P WiFi DDR4
  • Power Supply - brand & wattage (if laptop, skip this one)
    • Corsair RM750 PSU
  • Is driver verifierenabled or disabled?
    • disabled
  • What security software are you using? (Firewall, antivirus, antimalware, antispyware, and so forth)
    • Windows defender
  • Are you using proxy, vpn, ipfilters or similar software?
    • Had openVPN and ProtonVPN installed before the issue but barely ever used them
  • Are you using Disk Image tools? (like daemon tools, alcohol 52% or 120%, virtual CloneDrive, roxio software)
    • No
  • Are you currently under/overclocking? Are there overclocking software installed on your system?
    • No, before the problem arose I believe the Intel XTU app was installed or however present, but never applied OC
Speccy link: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/DLTy4kxU7lunxNvBgxWGoUa
 

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OS Name:                   Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
OS Version:                10.0.22621 N/A Build 22621
Product ID:                00330-81486-41014-AA716
Original Install Date:     6/13/2023, 10:25:10 PM
System Boot Time:          6/14/2023, 11:35:41 PM

1. You originally purchased full retail version of Windows 10 Pro then upgraded to W11 Pro x64?
2. If yes, how did the system run on Windows 10 given that you mentioned all parts are <1 year old?
3. Were there any issues during W10 x64 Pro installation?
4. Any issues during W10 --> W11 upgrade?
5. What is the origin of the W10 x64 Pro ISO? Did you download it, then burn to USB stick?
6. Where did you download W10 Pro x64 from?
7. W11 upgrade came in via Windows Updates?
8. Were ALL internal SSDs and HDDs connected during original W10 installation?

How old is the oldest part on the desktop PC?

Regards. . .

jcgriff2
 
This seems like a PSU/motherboard capacitor issue to me. Have you checked the motherboard for any visible signs of damage?
 
Apologies for the late reply

1. You originally purchased full retail version of Windows 10 Pro then upgraded to W11 Pro x64?
As best as I can remember, yes
2. If yes, how did the system run on Windows 10 given that you mentioned all parts are <1 year old?
It ran well. I've upgraded the pc over time, when using W10 I think I had a Ryzen 5 3600 for the whole time
3. Were there any issues during W10 x64 Pro installation?
I had a bunch of BSODs (actually I had an older post in the forum about it)
4. Any issues during W10 --> W11 upgrade?
No
5. What is the origin of the W10 x64 Pro ISO? Did you download it, then burn to USB stick?
I think I used a Windows installer utility? Cannot remember for sure
6. Where did you download W10 Pro x64 from?
Microsoft's website / their installer application
7. W11 upgrade came in via Windows Updates?
Yes, it was actually not requested but one day I turned the pc on and it had upgraded
8. Were ALL internal SSDs and HDDs connected during original W10 installation?
I don't think so, I believe a few are newer

How old is the oldest part on the desktop PC?
Probably one of the HDDs, if I had to hazard a guess between 5 and 10 years old?



This seems like a PSU/motherboard capacitor issue to me. Have you checked the motherboard for any visible signs of damage?
I did, no visible damage on the mobo. I actually ran more testing on the system and the PSU is now completely dead. I am pretty sure that was the original root cause of this whole issue, and I've been advised that it's a known issue between RTX 3080 / 750W PSUs where the PSU is not able to sustain the power load spikes of the GPU
 
I am pretty sure that was the original root cause of this whole issue, and I've been advised that it's a known issue between RTX 3080 / 750W PSUs where the PSU is not able to sustain the power load spikes of the GPU
It would seem to be, I've just had a look at the specification pages for both your PSU and graphics card and it looks like they recommend a 750W PSU, although, it is rare that a PSU will actually deliver the required wattage under load so most people usually get a PSU which has a power rating which is slightly greater than their requirements. Of course, the quality of PSUs will vary and you can't really trust what the manufacturer states. Some PSUs will have two power ratings as well, usually continuous power and under load.

I will mark this thread as solved for now.
 
It would seem to be, I've just had a look at the specification pages for both your PSU and graphics card and it looks like they recommend a 750W PSU, although, it is rare that a PSU will actually deliver the required wattage under load so most people usually get a PSU which has a power rating which is slightly greater than their requirements. Of course, the quality of PSUs will vary and you can't really trust what the manufacturer states. Some PSUs will have two power ratings as well, usually continuous power and under load.

I will mark this thread as solved for now.
Sounds good, what I can't understand is why I have not had issues before, the PSU+GPU combo has been in the system for ~1 year, then about 6 months ago I also upgraded the CPU. I'd assume the recommended PSU spec on the GPU product page already accounts for some wiggle room (iirc GPU+CPU stated power draw should be around ~500W in fact, so plenty of room there).
I'm assuming over time the PSU simply degraded enough for the load spikes to become an issue leading to its ultimate failure.
 
Just to close this out, I swapped the PSU with a 1000W one and ran some stability tests:
Prime95 (Small FTTs) + Furmark (4k+8xMSAA) for 30 minutes, system was stable - 85 degrees max on the CPU, 70 on the GPU
Cinebench R23, ~23k score with a maximum temp of 81 degrees on the CPU
Intel XTU stress test w/ AVX2 for 30 minutes, max temp ~70 degrees and test passed.
I also tried launching Diablo IV again and running around in one of the cities, system did not crash but not sure how reliable this quick test run was.
 
Sounds good, what I can't understand is why I have not had issues before, the PSU+GPU combo has been in the system for ~1 year, then about 6 months ago I also upgraded the CPU. I'd assume the recommended PSU spec on the GPU product page already accounts for some wiggle room (iirc GPU+CPU stated power draw should be around ~500W in fact, so plenty of room there).
It could have happened gradually over time or you could have just got unlucky and it had to just suddenly fail. It's difficult to say because they haven't really mentioned what they mean with that power rating. Since you're using a PSU with a higher wattage, then hopefully you won't have any other issues.
 

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