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Hey!

I'm having a problem with my computer, it was running alright last night but now it just won't get me to the screen where I enter my password.. I'll show you a screen (It's not mine, but it's the same. Sorry I couldn't get mine, I'm in safe mode and it's a hassle)

http://microsanswers.com/wp-content...ircling-dots-after-upgrading-to-window-10.jpg

I tried running SFC, it said it found errors and corrupt files but couldn't fix them.
I tried DISM, it also said it found errors but was unable to fix some of them (Error 0x800f0906)

Also what I remember moving permissions (ownership) of system32 to myself instead of TrustedInstaller... I don't know if this is causing the problem, but I did move it back to TrustedInstaller... but I don't know if I was successful or not. Just thought I'd mention this

I don't really know what to do. Any suggestions?

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
 
Hi Josephreak .... and welcome to the forums ....


If you were able to make it into Safe Mode, you should be able to use System Restore, picking a restore point from before any permissions were altered, and life was good.

System Restore in Windows 10


1) Right-click the Windows Start Menu icon
2) Select System
3) Select System Protection (a blue link in the upper left-hand corner)
4) Select System Restore
5) Choose a restore point from before the current trouble started.

If that doesn't help, you might try a Startup Repair (it is available from the Advanced Startup Options in Settings - Update & Security - Recovery)

Let us know if none of these help.
 
There's no System Protection option.

Does the system create restore points by itself? I don't remember turning on System Restore, or even creating any restore point.

The Update & Security tab crashes the whole settings interface once I click it. I don't know why. Maybe Safe Mode thing?

EDIT: I was trying to access system restore using rstrui.exe and it worked, but it said System Protection is turned off, the option to turn it on was there, but once I clicked it said that it's only available in online operating systems.
 
Hi again

Bad luck that System Restore ("System Protection") was turned off. The message you saw is a bit odd, I can see that perhaps some of System Restore's settings might not be available in Safe Mode, but I don't think having access to networks should matter at all. (Might just be a poorly worded error message - I've seen a few of those over the years)...

If your computer is fairly new, and you haven't added many programs, you might find that the quickest route is using the Reset feature, choosing the "Keep files" method. This reinstalls Windows 10 fresh from its little recovery partition, but keeps all your personal files untouched. If you have less than a dozen programs to install, and you have them easily available (you have the license keys, and the source files either locally or online) ... it might be the fastest and least troublesome repair. It's very easy to do ... it is available in that same Recovery section that you visited.

If you decide to try the Reset, when it is all finished, you can then go back to the System Protection settings, and turn System Restore on for the system partition (it doesn't need to run on any other partitions), and use the Configure button to limit its size to less than 10 GB.... any more than that is just overkill.

Tip: just in case, in systems like yours with sudden issues, I like to run thorough malware scans and hardware diagnostics, to rule those out as sources of the trouble. You might want to run a few scans and diagnostics before trying the Reset, since a hardware issue could cause the Reset to fail.

Let us know if you have questions
 
Thanks for your reply.

I don't think a reset would do me good, I forgot how many programs I have on this PC which a lot of them has my preferred config and stuff, so I really don't want to reset my stuff.. thinking about it just makes me uncomfortable :s

Also, I am not sure about it being a malware/virus issue, as my PC was running very good before I did what I did (assuming what happened, happened because I changed permissions in the whole C: Partition, Windows folder and System32) <== yes, I did that lol.

I don't know what to do, but I'm open for more troublesome solutions and methods! :)

Thanks for your reply again!
 
Hi again


There is an alternative to the "Reset", that might be just "what the doctor ordered". It is an in-place repair re-install of Windows 10. For this to work, you need to already have the latest build of Windows 10 ["Version 1151 (OS Build 10586.218)"] ... you can see what build you are currently using by right-clicking the Windows 10 Start Menu icon, selecting RUN, typing in winver, and pressing Enter). You then create a Windows 10 DVD, and use it to repair reinstall Windows 10. You create the Windows 10 DVD using the Media Creation Tool, which gives you the latest build ready for general release (not an "Insider" build). A repair reinstall, when it works, keeps all your personal files intact, and also keeps your currently installed programs and configurations. Hopefully, though, the permissions that you altered will get reset enough to fix things. Resetting permissions on your entire C drive, though, might in the end require a full Reset to undo: we'll just have to find out.

Create a bootable Windows 10 DVD


Go to the Microsoft Windows 10 website:
Windows 10


1) Once on the Windows 10 site, scroll down to the section "Need to create a USB, DVD, or ISO?"
2) Click on the blue option button "Download tool now"
Once the download is complete, double-click MediaCreationTool.exe
3) "Getting things ready" will appear for a bit.
4) Agree to the License Terms by clicking on Accept
5) "Getting a few things ready" will appear.
6) On the following screen, select "Create installation media for another PC".
7) And click Next.
8) Select your preferences: language, Windows 10 version, bit-depth (the defaults are English, Windows 10, 64-bit)
9) Select ISO file.


If the iso is created on a computer already running Windows 10, simply put a blank DVD in the optical drive, right-click the .iso file you created & select "burn disk image". Otherwise use a DVD burning capable program (Roxio, Nero, Sonic, CyberLink, etc.) to create the bootable DVD -- look for a "burn image" option. You must use that special command, because simply copying the file to a DVD doesn't make the DVD bootable, it must be written as a system image (otherwise it ends up as a normal storage DVD that happens to have an .iso file on it).


In-Place Repair Re-install of Windows 10
Once you have created the DVD, visit the tenforums guide to repair installing Windows 10. I've mentioned I perfer the DVD method - it is included in the several methods they discuss there. Here's the link to that guide:
Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums
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I'd still recommend running a few diagnostics: at least for the hard drive & memory (just to be sure). Some computers have diagnostics built-in, which simplifies the whole thing. Check the user manual for your model computer.

Let me know if you have any other questions, and good luck

(I'm heading out to a client's office at the moment, but I'll revisit the forum again tomorrow)
 
Hi again

I'd be more comfortable if you had an exact match - maybe it would be close enough (& then maybe not). I've only had situations with exact matches so far. The problem is, I don't know how you'd get to an exact match, since you can't get out of Safe Mode (unless by some miracle the "endless circle" finally resolves) -- I just tried to see if Windows Update would work at all in Windows 10 Safe Mode, and so far, the answer is no. The RPC service runs in Safe Mode, which is a dependency of the BITS service that Windows Update needs. So I tried starting the BITS service, and then tried starting Windows Update. No go. I still got the message "Windows Update cannot run in Safe Mode".

I figure you can go ahead and try a repair install, since you likely don't have many other choices. I rather expect that at some point you're going to have to either do the Reset or a clean install. But I like to try for repairs when there is an unknown situation -- and your situation is something I've not had anyone face before: you are the first to change the permissions for every file on an entire system partition. Windows 10 has shown itself to be a remarkable producer of permission problems and errors, and the issues can get complicated in a hurry. I figure that the repair install has a reasonable chance - since I expect it to reset the permissions for at least the system files that it redoes. And you have the same major build number - and your version of the build number is only one step older than the current build ... if I had to guess, I think having a slightly newer build on the DVD is better than having an older version on the DVD.

I'll check in again in the morning..... It's the "wee small hours of the morning" already here in Southern California: this night owl is heading back to the nest.
 
I tried the Reset and it still didn't work. Since my files on C: is gone anyway, I'll do a clean install, but I don't have any Windows 10 ISO or disc lying aroud. I upgraded from 8 to 10 just like that. What should I do?
 
Hi again

No worries (at least, assuming you have backups of your personal data). You can use your older product key that came with Windows 8 when you clean install Windows 10. Or, if you linked your previous Windows 10 installation to your Microsoft account, you won't likely have to enter your product key at all (Microsoft will have a record of your previous Windows 10 installation on that hardware, and use the same license for your clean install.... it can detect that its the same hardware signature).

You can create a Windows 10 installation DVD following the steps in my previous post. You'll probably need to create the DVD using another computer...

During the clean install, try to avoid installing any outdated (and possibly incompatible) manufacturer utilities, support programs, updaters, etc. Don't use any "driver disks" that came with the original system. Don't download any drivers, at least initially, that are not specifically written for Windows 10. Generics are better than incompatible oldies. Later on, if the system is stable & working well: if you have a device that doesn't have a working driver, let us know: and we'll check to see what has the best reports of success for operating in Windows 10.

Let us know if you have any questions.
 
I did a clean install (I downloaded it from somewhere .. :o) I thought I would get my activation via email but now my windows isn't activated.. what should I do?
 
Hi again

So long as the version of Windows 10 matches your previous version of Windows 10 (the same type, "Home" or "Pro" for example - and the same bit-depth, 32-bit or 64-bit) you should be able to either enter the product key from your previous version of Windows (or your previous installation of Windows 10) or if you link the Windows 10 you've just installed to your Microsoft account, it should activate using one of those methods. There is also a way to activate by calling a Microsoft automated activation phone service ... this method pops up when you try to activate from within Windows, but are unsuccessful. You call the number for your area provided on the screen, and since your hardware is already registered with Microsoft from your earlier install, the activation should work ... it has you enter a long string of numbers (enter them as carefully as you can, they have to match exactly).

Let us know if you have problems.


[By the way, no need to download Windows 10 from anywhere but from Microsoft itself .... the upgrade for owners of Windows 7/8.1 is still free until July 29, 2016] ...
 
I didnt save my product key from my previous windows, but I do remember linking* my microsoft account in my prev installation but I later un-linked it. So I dunno how I'll be able to activate my windows :/

* linking means that I sign into my microsoft account on windows and use my acc password when signing in windows, right?
 
Hi again


I wonder if you can just link the new installation to your Microsoft account, and it will activate automatically (since it should still have the data from your earlier installation on that same hardware).

You could always un-link it later on, if you'd prefer it that way ... after your fresh installation has activated.

Let us know if you have any questions....

[sorry I'm late replying .... I have only eight more hours to finish setting up a system that has to be at the airport by mid-day - to fly half-way around the world to one of my client's relatives :) ........]
 
It's not working. I dunno what I should do. Should I go darkside, it's against the rules I'm sure, but I'm out of options! :(
 
Hi again

(whew -- I made the deadline in time....)

If you downloaded a premium version of Windows 10 from a store, you'd need to negotiate with them if they didn't provide a key/license. And, truthfully, you would probably want to get your money back, since you qualify for the free upgrade to 10.

Assuming that you downloaded 10 from somewhere other than the Microsoft site I put one of my previous posts (look at the link in post "#6" in this thread), you can simply try again, this time ... 1) Check that your Microsoft account is in good shape (visit microsoft.com or outlook.com & sign in) 2) if the account is in good shape, download a fresh copy of Windows 10 using the Media Creation Tool from the link in my post 3) Burn the download "as a system image" to a DVD 4) Use the DVD to fresh install Windows, using your Microsoft account as the username.

It should activate automatically. Unless you actually cancelled, deleted, or removed your Microsoft account completely.

OR - look for any record of your Windows 8 product key. If you can locate that, you can use it during the install.

Let us know if you need more help.
 

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