help with slow wifi

GooonE

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Hi,

my wifi is very slow and I tried many drivers.

My laptop is y50-70


Don't tell me to call to support because it's very shallow support.
 
Are you having troubles with all devices in your network or just this one Lenovo?

How far away is the laptop from the router? Are there any walls or fireplaces in the straight sightlines to the router from the laptop?
 
Also, I recommend you try using an Ethernet cable connection. If speeds are slow there too, then it is not your "wifi".
 
Extender is your problem most likely then if WiFi is intermittent near it, and you're getting good speeds via ethernet.

Most people don't understand that if the Extender isn't receiving a good signal then anything connected to it is not going to get good WiFi. If you can hook something up to the hardwired network to broadcast, then go with an access point. The other thing to do is to make sure that the channel of all your AP's is the same, and on something that is less polluted in your wireless environment. Typically you would choose 1, 6, or 11 because they are the only 3 non-overlapping channels on the 2.4Ghz spectrum. The other thing to try would be to switch over to the 5Ghz radio, because less appliances and other electronics use that frequency, the only downside is that the 2.4Ghz will give you a longer range, but the 5Ghz will be faster.

Never go with an extender unless you absolutely have to... Make sure your AP's aren't too close together as well, and if the distance between your wireless router and any other AP's or routers set into AP-mode is reasonable, make sure the radio on all of them is on. Use a better AP (802.11ac support) if you need good range, and only use an extender if you can put it in a spot that always gets good WiFi and is close enough to get WiFi over to a location that doesn't have good WiFi and also has no hardwired network jacks (RJ-45).
 
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Extender is your problem most likely then if WiFi is intermittent near it, and you're getting good speeds via ethernet.

Most people don't understand that if the Extender isn't receiving a good signal then anything connected to it is not going to get good WiFi. If you can hook something up to the hardwired network to broadcast, then go with an access point. The other thing to do is to make sure that the channel of all your AP's is the same, and on something that is less polluted in your wireless environment. Typically you would choose 1, 6, or 11 because they are the only 3 non-overlapping channels on the 2.4Ghz spectrum. The other thing to try would be to switch over to the 5Ghz radio, because less appliances and other electronics use that frequency, the only downside is that the 2.4Ghz will give you a longer range, but the 5Ghz will be faster.

Never go with an extender unless you absolutely have to... Make sure your AP's aren't too close together as well, and if the distance between your wireless router and any other AP's or routers set into AP-mode is reasonable, make sure the radio on all of them is on. Use a better AP (802.11ac support) if you need good range, and only use an extender if you can put it in a spot that always gets good WiFi and is close enough to get WiFi over to a location that doesn't have good WiFi and also has no hardwired network jacks (RJ-45).


Hi.

Rotuer to extender edimax is 2.5 meters.

And my laptop from edimax extender is 12 meters.


router is netgear dgn2200v2
edimax is 300 m extender

and I didn't understand what you said in second paragraph.

If that's help:

I connected to router manager and some data:
Channel 8
Mode Up to 300Mbps
uses Schedule and uses ntp server
there is also upnp enabled.. (idk what it is)
also in router log i see:

[Service blocked: ICMP_echo_req] from source HIDE_IP.
Firewall: packet drop. (hide ip), Protocol ICMP, Message type 3.

router&extender security - WPA2-PSK


-GooonE
 
Rotuer to extender edimax is 2.5 meters.

And my laptop from edimax extender is 12 meters.
This does not suggest the need for an extender. Do you have other computers farther (much farther) away on this network? If not, I agree with AceInfinity and recommend you remove the extender. It appears to just be adding a man in the middle you don't need.
 
Rotuer to extender edimax is 2.5 meters.

And my laptop from edimax extender is 12 meters.
This does not suggest the need for an extender. Do you have other computers farther (much farther) away on this network? If not, I agree with AceInfinity and recommend you remove the extender. It appears to just be adding a man in the middle you don't need.

The router is in room and extender is outside room and 12 meters from me and is like on my right way in hall.

And I can't connect to router wifi because is very far 12 + 2.5 meters.
In my laptop the router is not displayed..
 
And I can't connect to router wifi because is very far 12 + 2.5 meters.
And I am saying 14.5 meters is not very far. 30 meters is far.

Now of course other things can affect effective range. Crowded wifi environments can, for example, if you live in a large apartment complex where there are many surrounding wifi networks. This is where selecting a less crowded channel as AceInfinity suggested could help. Using a program like XIRRUS WiFi Inspector could help you choose a better channel.

Other factors are the number and composition of walls/floors/ceilings between your computer and the WAP (wireless access point). One or two barriers should not be a problem at 14.5m. The content of those wall may matter if they are full of wires and metal pipes. And then then there are other electronic devices nearby that may be introducing EMI/RFI (interference). These include old or faulty TVs, poorly shielded microwave ovens or really close by and busy cell/communication towers.

Do any of those conditions apply?
 
And I can't connect to router wifi because is very far 12 + 2.5 meters.
And I am saying 14.5 meters is not very far. 30 meters is far.

Now of course other things can affect effective range. Crowded wifi environments can, for example, if you live in a large apartment complex where there are many surrounding wifi networks. This is where selecting a less crowded channel as AceInfinity suggested could help. Using a program like XIRRUS WiFi Inspector could help you choose a better channel.

Other factors are the number and composition of walls/floors/ceilings between your computer and the WAP (wireless access point). One or two barriers should not be a problem at 14.5m. The content of those wall may matter if they are full of wires and metal pipes. And then then there are other electronic devices nearby that may be introducing EMI/RFI (interference). These include old or faulty TVs, poorly shielded microwave ovens or really close by and busy cell/communication towers.

Do any of those conditions apply?
Hi, I don't live in large apartment complex.

In my room there is door which is opened and there is hall to edimax extender and then go right and there is door(which is opened) and the router is sitting there..

In attached devices there is two connected to router but the names are hidden and I don't know who are they. The device names are "--"..

Only I using internet now. Also the printer connected...

Edit: I also running virtualbox ubuntu and probably he doesn't have name.. so only one left unknown device
 
In attached devices there is two connected to router but the names are hidden and I don't know who are they. The device names are "--"..
You definitely should try to figure out what those are. One may be the extender. Look for a label with the MAC address. If you have a smart phone set to use wifi, it could be listed. "Smart" tablets, TVs, or Blu-ray players, or streaming devices like a Roku device could be attached. If you cannot figure it out, I would block it and change your passphrase immediately.

Otherwise, I still see no reason to be using an extender from what you describe.
 
In attached devices there is two connected to router but the names are hidden and I don't know who are they. The device names are "--"..
You definitely should try to figure out what those are. One may be the extender. Look for a label with the MAC address. If you have a smart phone set to use wifi, it could be listed. "Smart" tablets, TVs, or Blu-ray players, or streaming devices like a Roku device could be attached. If you cannot figure it out, I would block it and change your passphrase immediately.

Otherwise, I still see no reason to be using an extender from what you describe.
Hi,

yeah one was my android and I see because I disconnected it.
yeah so i connected wire but it's not comfortable at all :/
 
yeah so i connected wire but it's not comfortable at all :/
I don't know what you mean by "not comfortable". Ethernet is inherently more secured than wireless. That makes me more comfortable.
 
Well, you can buy different lengths. Or as I do, I make my own to length I need. But a good crimper is not cheap and probably not worth it unless you make lots of cables.

I would still remove the extender and connect directly to the wireless router and see how that works.
 
Extender is your problem most likely then if WiFi is intermittent near it, and you're getting good speeds via ethernet.

Most people don't understand that if the Extender isn't receiving a good signal then anything connected to it is not going to get good WiFi. If you can hook something up to the hardwired network to broadcast, then go with an access point. The other thing to do is to make sure that the channel of all your AP's is the same, and on something that is less polluted in your wireless environment. Typically you would choose 1, 6, or 11 because they are the only 3 non-overlapping channels on the 2.4Ghz spectrum. The other thing to try would be to switch over to the 5Ghz radio, because less appliances and other electronics use that frequency, the only downside is that the 2.4Ghz will give you a longer range, but the 5Ghz will be faster.

Never go with an extender unless you absolutely have to... Make sure your AP's aren't too close together as well, and if the distance between your wireless router and any other AP's or routers set into AP-mode is reasonable, make sure the radio on all of them is on. Use a better AP (802.11ac support) if you need good range, and only use an extender if you can put it in a spot that always gets good WiFi and is close enough to get WiFi over to a location that doesn't have good WiFi and also has no hardwired network jacks (RJ-45).


Hi.

Rotuer to extender edimax is 2.5 meters.

And my laptop from edimax extender is 12 meters.


router is netgear dgn2200v2
edimax is 300 m extender

and I didn't understand what you said in second paragraph.

If that's help:

I connected to router manager and some data:
Channel 8
Mode Up to 300Mbps
uses Schedule and uses ntp server
there is also upnp enabled.. (idk what it is)
also in router log i see:

[Service blocked: ICMP_echo_req] from source HIDE_IP.
Firewall: packet drop. (hide ip), Protocol ICMP, Message type 3.

router&extender security - WPA2-PSK


-GooonE

If you have a wireless router, why would you need the extender if it's only 2.5 meters away? With radios that close together as well it's probably doing more harm than any good when it comes to zero-handoff.

Also channel 8 seems an odd number. UPnP enabled is fine, it's common.

If you need a long cable, you can easily make your own, just make sure that you terminate to T568A or T568B on both ends and that they match (no crossovers). Additionally you can get Cat6 (shielded) for speed, just make sure that you're not using Cat5 RJ45 modular plugs on a Cat6 cable if you do that, and in all cases, that the run is no longer than ~100meters (the limit). I would also recommend that you do not use the EZ-thru plugs because if you don't terminate them to a certain quality they can easily cause troubles on a network or they may short and not work. You only need to make a cable once if done properly and you'll get the quality too, so why not do it right? :)

I have all kinds of category cable, a crimper, and a network certifier, so I'll typically just build my own, especially since I know the majority of the junk you buy from the store is stranded plastic, non-shielded junk for the most part. I have shielded ends and the whole works.

If you want the wireless over hardwired, and the router isn't an 802.11ac, you can disable the radio on the router and get an 802.11ac access point for good coverage, and make sure that you connect to the 2.4Ghz SSID for distance. If you can't get an access point, you can put the router into bridge mode and use a wireless router that is an 802.11ac, and go that way, or just make sure that nothing but the secondary router is plugged into the first.

Lastly, there ARE sources of interference for WiFi. Such things include water, concrete, metal, and other invisible interference like microwaves, or if you have any baby monitors, those will also deplete your wireless coverage.

I personally find this NirSoft tool a great one when checking radio signal strength and settings: WirelessNetView - Wireless Network Monitoring Software

I can see what channels other radios are set to, in addition to signal data.
 
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Extender is your problem most likely then if WiFi is intermittent near it, and you're getting good speeds via ethernet.

Most people don't understand that if the Extender isn't receiving a good signal then anything connected to it is not going to get good WiFi. If you can hook something up to the hardwired network to broadcast, then go with an access point. The other thing to do is to make sure that the channel of all your AP's is the same, and on something that is less polluted in your wireless environment. Typically you would choose 1, 6, or 11 because they are the only 3 non-overlapping channels on the 2.4Ghz spectrum. The other thing to try would be to switch over to the 5Ghz radio, because less appliances and other electronics use that frequency, the only downside is that the 2.4Ghz will give you a longer range, but the 5Ghz will be faster.

Never go with an extender unless you absolutely have to... Make sure your AP's aren't too close together as well, and if the distance between your wireless router and any other AP's or routers set into AP-mode is reasonable, make sure the radio on all of them is on. Use a better AP (802.11ac support) if you need good range, and only use an extender if you can put it in a spot that always gets good WiFi and is close enough to get WiFi over to a location that doesn't have good WiFi and also has no hardwired network jacks (RJ-45).


Hi.

Rotuer to extender edimax is 2.5 meters.

And my laptop from edimax extender is 12 meters.


router is netgear dgn2200v2
edimax is 300 m extender

and I didn't understand what you said in second paragraph.

If that's help:

I connected to router manager and some data:
Channel 8
Mode Up to 300Mbps
uses Schedule and uses ntp server
there is also upnp enabled.. (idk what it is)
also in router log i see:

[Service blocked: ICMP_echo_req] from source HIDE_IP.
Firewall: packet drop. (hide ip), Protocol ICMP, Message type 3.

router&extender security - WPA2-PSK


-GooonE

If you have a wireless router, why would you need the extender if it's only 2.5 meters away? With radios that close together as well it's probably doing more harm than any good when it comes to zero-handoff.

Also channel 8 seems an odd number. UPnP enabled is fine, it's common.

If you need a long cable, you can easily make your own, just make sure that you terminate to T568A or T568B on both ends and that they match (no crossovers). Additionally you can get Cat6 (shielded) for speed, just make sure that you're not using Cat5 RJ45 modular plugs on a Cat6 cable if you do that, and in all cases, that the run is no longer than ~100meters (the limit). I would also recommend that you do not use the EZ-thru plugs because if you don't terminate them to a certain quality they can easily cause troubles on a network or they may short and not work. You only need to make a cable once if done properly and you'll get the quality too, so why not do it right? :)

I have all kinds of category cable, a crimper, and a network certifier, so I'll typically just build my own, especially since I know the majority of the junk you buy from the store is stranded plastic, non-shielded junk for the most part. I have shielded ends and the whole works.

If you want the wireless over hardwired, and the router isn't an 802.11ac, you can disable the radio on the router and get an 802.11ac access point for good coverage, and make sure that you connect to the 2.4Ghz SSID for distance. If you can't get an access point, you can put the router into bridge mode and use a wireless router that is an 802.11ac, and go that way, or just make sure that nothing but the secondary router is plugged into the first.

Lastly, there ARE sources of interference for WiFi. Such things include water, concrete, metal, and other invisible interference like microwaves, or if you have any baby monitors, those will also deplete your wireless coverage.

I personally find this NirSoft tool a great one when checking radio signal strength and settings: WirelessNetView - Wireless Network Monitoring Software

I can see what channels other radios are set to, in addition to signal data.
hi, from my room to router netgear is like 20 + meters.

And from netgear(router) to edimax(wifi extender) the distance is like 2 meter


router is 8% and edimx is 70% from wirelessnetviewer

And then router is up to 30% but I can't connect because it has security and windows wifi doesn't show it
 
hi, from my room to router netgear is like 20 + meters.
And from netgear(router) to edimax(wifi extender) the distance is like 2 meter
And as I noted before, 22+ meters is not too far.

I can't connect because it has security and windows wifi doesn't show it

Who owns/manages this network? If you, you should know the passphrase. If me (and it was my network), I would remove the extender, then delete the network from my computer and start over. If your router has external antennas, move them around for the best signal strength. If internal antennas, turn the whole router 90°.
 
hi, from my room to router netgear is like 20 + meters.
And from netgear(router) to edimax(wifi extender) the distance is like 2 meter
And as I noted before, 22+ meters is not too far.

I can't connect because it has security and windows wifi doesn't show it

Who owns/manages this network? If you, you should know the passphrase. If me (and it was my network), I would remove the extender, then delete the network from my computer and start over. If your router has external antennas, move them around for the best signal strength. If internal antennas, turn the whole router 90°.
the router doesn't have antennas. It's like router without antennas the poles..

And in wifi on windows 10 i don't see the wifi..
 
It's like router without antennas the poles..
If a "wireless router", it has antennas. All radio devices MUST have antennas. If you don't see any, then it has internal antennas (as many wireless routers and wireless access points do). And in that case, to adjust propagation, you must turn the whole router. For example, here are two wireless routers. One has external antennas, the other has internal.

I really don't know what more to suggest than has already been suggested several times.
 

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