BSOD - Acer Aspire 5750G

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Hello I've been getting BSODs for couple months now always when playing a game ( World of Warcraft). Laptop is over 2 years old and I never had any problems before with it, except with Optimus tehnology in it as all applications used integrated Intel HD family 3000 graphic instead of Nvidia GT 540 M.

I recently reinstalled windows and formated all drives. I'm not sure if there's prob with this but there are some "leftovers" on my disk D but I can't see those files.
I also tried with older Nvidia drivers but I didn't get any result.

The error I'm getting is Nvlddmkm.sys.
Also I think it's worth mentioning I'm using external monitor Samsung SyncMaster SA350.
Thank you for taking your time.
 

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Hi,

First off, in regards to the perfmon:

Symptom:
Device drivers are not installed.
Cause: A driver has not been installed for this device preventing it from working properly.
Details: The device driver for Network Controller has not been installed. This device will not be available until the correct device driver is installed.

Visit Acer's website and be sure to grab all of the latest Network drivers - Acer | Download

Onto the dumps, they are all of the VIDEO_TDR_ERROR (116) bug check.

This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed.


So, let me now explain what VIDEO_TDR_ERROR means. First off, TDR is an acronym for 'Timeout Detection and Recovery'. Timeout Detection and Recovery was introduced in Vista and carried over to Windows 7. Rather than putting exactly what Timeout Detection and Recovery does exactly, I'll just directly quote the MSDN article!

Timeout detection:

The GPU scheduler, which is part of the DirectX graphics kernel subsystem (Dxgkrnl.sys), detects that the GPU is taking more than the permitted amount of time to execute a particular task. The GPU scheduler then tries to preempt this particular task. The preempt operation has a "wait" timeout, which is the actual TDR timeout. This step is thus the timeout detection phase of the process. The default timeout period in Windows Vista and later operating systems is 2 seconds. If the GPU cannot complete or preempt the current task within the TDR timeout period, the operating system diagnoses that the GPU is frozen.
To prevent timeout detection from occurring, hardware vendors should ensure that graphics operations (that is, DMA buffer completion) take no more than 2 seconds in end-user scenarios such as productivity and game play.

Preparation for recovery:

The operating system's GPU scheduler calls the display miniport driver's DxgkDdiResetFromTimeout function to inform the driver that the operating system detected a timeout. The driver must then reinitialize itself and reset the GPU. In addition, the driver must stop accessing memory and should not access hardware. The operating system and the driver collect hardware and other state information that could be useful for post-mortem diagnosis.

Desktop recovery:

The operating system resets the appropriate state of the graphics stack. The video memory manager, which is also part of Dxgkrnl.sys, purges all allocations from video memory. The display miniport driver resets the GPU hardware state. The graphics stack takes the final actions and restores the desktop to the responsive state. As previously mentioned, some legacy DirectX applications might render just black at the end of this recovery, which requires the end user to restart these applications. Well-written DirectX 9Ex and DirectX 10 and later applications that handle Device Remove technology continue to work correctly. An application must release and then recreate its Direct3D device and all of the device's objects. For more information about how DirectX applications recover, see the Windows SDK.
With this being said, if Timeout Detection and Recovery fails to recover the display driver, it will then shoot the 0x116 bugcheck. There are many different things that can cause a 0x116, which I will explain below:

(Ensure you have the latest video card drivers. If you are already on the latest video card drivers, uninstall and install a version or a few versions behind the latest to ensure it's not a latest driver only issue. If you have already experimented with the latest video card driver and many previous versions, please give the beta driver for your card a try.)

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-- aksdf.sys - Wed Dec 13 12:09:32 2006

^^ Data Filter Driver by Aladdin Knowledge Systems, pretty dated (2006). Check for an update or remove ASAP - Aladdin Knowledge Systems: Support

The following hardware issues can cause a TDR event:

1. Unstable overclock (CPU, GPU, etc). Revert all and any overclocks to stock settings.

2. Bad sector in memory resulting in corrupt data being communicated between the GPU and the system (video memory otherwise known as VRAM or physical memory otherwise known as RAM).

GPU testing: Furmark, run for ~15 minutes and watch temperatures to ensure there's no overheating and watch for artifacts.

RAM testing: Memtest - Refer to the below:

Memtest:

Memtest86+:

Download Memtest86+ here:

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

Which should I download?

You can either download the pre-compiled ISO that you would burn to a CD and then boot from the CD, or you can download the auto-installer for the USB key. What this will do is format your USB drive, make it a bootable device, and then install the necessary files. Both do the same job, it's just up to you which you choose, or which you have available (whether it's CD or USB).

How Memtest works:

Memtest86 writes a series of test patterns to most memory addresses, reads back the data written, and compares it for errors.

The default pass does 9 different tests, varying in access patterns and test data. A tenth test, bit fade, is selectable from the menu. It writes all memory with zeroes, then sleeps for 90 minutes before checking to see if bits have changed (perhaps because of refresh problems). This is repeated with all ones for a total time of 3 hours per pass.

Many chipsets can report RAM speeds and timings via SPD (Serial Presence Detect) or EPP (Enhanced Performance Profiles), and some even support changing the expected memory speed. If the expected memory speed is overclocked, Memtest86 can test that memory performance is error-free with these faster settings.

Some hardware is able to report the "PAT status" (PAT: enabled or PAT: disabled). This is a reference to Intel Performance acceleration technology; there may be BIOS settings which affect this aspect of memory timing.

This information, if available to the program, can be displayed via a menu option.

Any other questions, they can most likely be answered by reading this great guide here:

FAQ : please read before posting

3. Corrupt hard drive or Windows install / OS install resulting in corruption to the registry or page file.

HDD diagnostics: Seatools - Refer to the below:

SeaTools | Seagate

You can run it via Windows or DOS. Do note that the only difference is simply the environment you're running it in. In Windows, if you are having what you believe to be device driver related issues that may cause conflicts or false positive, it may be a wise decision to choose the most minimal testing environment (DOS).

Run all tests EXCEPT: Fix All, Long Generic, and anything Advanced.

To reset your page file, follow the instructions below:

a ) Go to Start...Run...and type in "sysdm.cpl" (without the quotes) and press Enter.

- Then click on the Advanced tab,
- Then on the Performance Settings Button,
- Then on the next Advanced tab,
- Then on the Virtual Memory Change button.

b ) In this window, note down the current settings for your pagefile (so you can restore them later on).

-Then click on the "No paging file" radio button, and

- then on the "Set" button. Be sure, if you have multiple hard drives, that you ensure that the paging file is set to 0 on all of them.

-Click OK to exit the dialogs.

c ) Reboot (this will remove the pagefile from your system)

d ) Then go back in following the directions in step a ) and re-enter the settings that you wrote down in step

b ). Follow the steps all the way through (and including) the reboot.

e ) Once you've rebooted this second time, go back in and check to make sure that the settings are as they're supposed to be.

Run System File Checker:

SFC.EXE /SCANNOW

Go to Start and type in "cmd.exe" (without the quotes)

At the top of the search box, right click on the cmd.exe and select "Run as adminstrator"

In the black window that opens, type "SFC.EXE /SCANNOW" (without the quotes) and press Enter.

Let the program run and post back what it says when it's done.

- Overheating of the CPU or GPU and or other components can cause 0x116 bugchecks. Monitor your temperatures and ensure the system is cooled adequately.

- GPU failure. Whether it's heat, power issue (PSU issue), failing VRAM, etc.

The following software issues can cause a TDR event:

- Incompatible drivers of any sort

- Messy / corrupt registry

- Corrupt Direct X - How to install the latest version of DirectX

- Corrupt system files (run System File Checker as advised above)

- Buggy and or corrupt 3rd party drivers. If you suspect a 3rd party driver being the issue, enable Driver Verifier:

Driver Verifier:

What is Driver Verifier?

Driver Verifier is included in Windows 8, 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003 to promote stability and reliability; you can use this tool to troubleshoot driver issues. Windows kernel-mode components can cause system corruption or system failures as a result of an improperly written driver, such as an earlier version of a Windows Driver Model (WDM) driver.

Essentially, if there's a 3rd party driver believed to be at issue, enabling Driver Verifier will help flush out the rogue driver if it detects a violation.

Before enabling Driver Verifier, it is recommended to create a System Restore Point:

Vista - START | type rstrui - create a restore point
Windows 7 - START | type create | select "Create a Restore Point"
Windows 8 - Restore Point - Create in Windows 8

How to enable Driver Verifier:

Start > type "verifier" without the quotes > Select the following options -

1. Select - "Create custom settings (for code developers)"
2. Select - "Select individual settings from a full list"
3. Check the following boxes -
- Special Pool
- Pool Tracking
- Force IRQL Checking
- Deadlock Detection
- Security Checks (Windows 7 & 8)
- DDI compliance checking (Windows 8)
- Miscellaneous Checks
4. Select - "Select driver names from a list"
5. Click on the "Provider" tab. This will sort all of the drivers by the provider.
6. Check EVERY box that is NOT provided by Microsoft / Microsoft Corporation.
7. Click on Finish.
8. Restart.

Important information regarding Driver Verifier:

- If Driver Verifier finds a violation, the system will BSOD.

- After enabling Driver Verifier and restarting the system, depending on the culprit, if for example the driver is on start-up, you may not be able to get back into normal Windows because Driver Verifier will flag it, and as stated above, that will cause / force a BSOD.

If this happens, do not panic, do the following:

- Boot into Safe Mode by repeatedly tapping the F8 key during boot-up.

- Once in Safe Mode - Start > type "system restore" without the quotes.

- Choose the restore point you created earlier.
If you did not set up a restore point, do not worry, you can still disable Driver Verifier to get back into normal Windows:

- Start > Search > type "cmd" without the quotes.

- To turn off Driver Verifier, type in cmd "verifier /reset" without the quotes.
・ Restart and boot into normal Windows.

How long should I keep Driver Verifier enabled for?

It varies, many experts and analysts have different recommendations. Personally, I recommend keeping it enabled for at least 24 hours. If you don't BSOD by then, disable Driver Verifier.

My system BSOD'd, where can I find the crash dumps?

They will be located in %systemroot%\Minidump

Any other questions can most likely be answered by this article:
Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users

Regards,

Patrick
 
Thanks for replaying. Before you replayed I've done Verifier after booting my screen froze when desktop was launching so I had to restore to previous version. I've typed verifier /queryafter window appeared couple sec later it disappear so I+m wondering should I type Verifier /reset? I had couple BSODs after I've type Verifier /query so no idea if it was affected by BSOD.

I've ran System File checker. It found some corrupted data.

Atm I'm finishing SeaTools for Windows it passed all test ( currently on last test long Generic)

For Memtest I tryed to install it via bootable USB as I don't have blank cd/DVD but having problems after I restart I don't get any install or anything similiar. I've made sure that USB is No1 in priority ni BIOS for booting.

I'll do other testing tomorrow and let you know results. Also I installed all network drivers which I didn't had.
 

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There were quite a number of corruptions in the SFC log. If you run scannow again, do you have corruptions again?

I had couple BSODs after I've type Verifier /query so no idea if it was affected by BSOD.

1. /verifier query simply display information quickly about whether or not verifier is active. verifier /reset disables it after a restart.

2. Attach the dumps from the crashes that occurred while verifier was enabled, please.

For Memtest I tryed to install it via bootable USB as I don't have blank cd/DVD but having problems after I restart I don't get any install or anything similiar. I've made sure that USB is No1 in priority ni BIOS for booting.

If you used the USB key and properly installed it, but get no boot even after making it #1 priority, some boards just cannot boot via USB.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Those crashes happened while I was playing a game so prob not cause by verifier.

After 15min testing with Furmark

CPU was around 90°C ( temp was taken from Speccy)
Graphic also around 90°C ( temp was taken from Speccy)
GPU temp. shown in Furmark test was max 99°C

Sea Tools for windows Long Generic test was also succcesfull.

I made SS with furmark but can't find the SS.
 

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I've ran Memtest for 2 and a half hours had 2 Passses and 0 errors I'll let it run over night as I'm currently need to use laptop.
 
After about 2hrs playing a game CPU and graphics temp is around 85°C .

Well, here's our problem (or at least one of). We need to work on getting this down quite a bit. I'd recommend cleaning all of the vents on the laptop, ensuring there's no dust trapped within any of the vents. If your warranty has expired, then feel free to open the laptop and clean all of the fans, heatsink, etc. If you're still having issues after, you may want to look into an aftermarket cooling pad.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Hello, yea I'm looking at nearby PC service to get help with cleaning, and also looking at some guides aswell.. And I do have cooling pad. Temp show in pictured from mem test was without cooling pad.

Here's Memtesting results after 10hrs.
 

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Memtest86+ failed.

That RAM stick needs to be replaced.

EDIT: Was that a test of a single RAM stick or >1 stick?

If >1 stick, test each stick in each slot.
 
Edit: Didn't see you there, John. Sorry!

When I booted it started automaticly, I guess I have to chose some option to test other sticks?

No, actually, the only way to test other sticks to manually remove them and test them ONE at a time. The laptop is 2 years old, do you know if it's still under warranty? If not, go ahead and open it up and remove all but 1 stick and re-run Memtest. If you fail, there's the bad stick. If you pass, there's a GOOD stick, so take it out and test the other stick(s) until you find the bad one.

If it's still under warranty however, you'll want to contact the manufacturer and let them know Memtest is failing and you'd like replacement RAM installed.

Regards,

Patrick
 
Warranty is long gone, but I'll start with ram testing and let you know the results. Thank you very much for all the help and helping me locating the problem.
 
Also one more question when I find bad stick should I remove that one and for time being use the good one?

That is correct, and in the meantime you'll want to of course look into compatible replacement RAM.

Regards,

Patrick
 
I'm doing 3 passes with memtest. Ram stick of 2 gb has shown errors in slot 0. Atm I'm testing 4gb stick in slot 0. Question i have should i do more passes?
There's 2 posb 3 slots. I'll check after testing is complete. I miss read your question about slots so i'm editing this post.
 
Are you mixing and matching RAM, why do you have two different sizes of RAM? Did you purchase your RAM as a kit or just add a stick on your own? Try testing with all sticks installed and run for no less than ~8 passes. If you get errors, your RAM isn't compatible together.

Regards,

Patrick
 

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