lumpy95 Well-known member Joined Sep 7, 2018 Posts 129 Location Mojave Desert, CA Dec 6, 2018 #41 Well, so far no problem with running Magician manually on W7. Running Magician manually on W10 immediately throws the WMI crash when Magician launches (I can see it in Reliability Monitor). I guess I will live with it since Magician does run anyway, even with the WMI crash. It's a shame that Samsung tech support doesn't have a clue about the problem. Anyway, I'll leave this open for comments for a short time and then close it if there are none. Thanks to all who reply/replied.
Well, so far no problem with running Magician manually on W7. Running Magician manually on W10 immediately throws the WMI crash when Magician launches (I can see it in Reliability Monitor). I guess I will live with it since Magician does run anyway, even with the WMI crash. It's a shame that Samsung tech support doesn't have a clue about the problem. Anyway, I'll leave this open for comments for a short time and then close it if there are none. Thanks to all who reply/replied.
Digerati ModeratorHardware ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Aug 28, 2012 Posts 4,915 Location Nebraska, USA Dec 7, 2018 #42 Again, I would consider not using Magician - at least not in real time as suggested previously by both me and Satrow. Microsoft has no intention of degrading the performance of your hardware, or to reduce its lifespan. That is not in their best interest or that of their customers. And SSDs must comply with universal industry standards so they will be compatible with all drive controllers, motherboards, and operating systems. It is my experience such utilities add no benefit while consuming resources that could be used by the OS or other programs. I have friends and colleagues who have multiple SSDs from multiple makers installed in their computers. Imagine the resource hogging bloat if Samsung, Toshiba/OCZ, Crucial, SanDisk and WD all required proprietary software running full time to keep their SSDs operating optimally.
Again, I would consider not using Magician - at least not in real time as suggested previously by both me and Satrow. Microsoft has no intention of degrading the performance of your hardware, or to reduce its lifespan. That is not in their best interest or that of their customers. And SSDs must comply with universal industry standards so they will be compatible with all drive controllers, motherboards, and operating systems. It is my experience such utilities add no benefit while consuming resources that could be used by the OS or other programs. I have friends and colleagues who have multiple SSDs from multiple makers installed in their computers. Imagine the resource hogging bloat if Samsung, Toshiba/OCZ, Crucial, SanDisk and WD all required proprietary software running full time to keep their SSDs operating optimally.
lumpy95 Well-known member Joined Sep 7, 2018 Posts 129 Location Mojave Desert, CA Dec 7, 2018 #43 Again, I would consider not using Magician - at least not in real time as suggested previously by both me and Satrow Click to expand... Since Magician doesn't run unless I physically open it (I removed the Startup option), would that be a problem??
Again, I would consider not using Magician - at least not in real time as suggested previously by both me and Satrow Click to expand... Since Magician doesn't run unless I physically open it (I removed the Startup option), would that be a problem??
Digerati ModeratorHardware ExpertMicrosoft MVP (Ret.) Staff member Joined Aug 28, 2012 Posts 4,915 Location Nebraska, USA Dec 7, 2018 #44 Oops! You did say manually! Sorry. Yes, if not running in real-time, there should be no problems.
lumpy95 Well-known member Joined Sep 7, 2018 Posts 129 Location Mojave Desert, CA Dec 7, 2018 #45 Guess I'll close this although it's not really solved. Evidently Samsung Magician has problems that Samsung is not willing or able to fix. I have seen numerous threads on Google about it and no fixes, even when trying Samsung Tech Support (which just suggested that I run it manually since they don't know or seem to care if there is a problem).
Guess I'll close this although it's not really solved. Evidently Samsung Magician has problems that Samsung is not willing or able to fix. I have seen numerous threads on Google about it and no fixes, even when trying Samsung Tech Support (which just suggested that I run it manually since they don't know or seem to care if there is a problem).
L Linblow New member Joined Jan 9, 2021 Posts 1 Jan 9, 2021 #46 Seems like this issue is caused by services from ASUS AI Suite software. - ISSUE: AI Suite (its services) causes a delay after windows session logon. The following components are affected by this delay: - running application as admin - network connection setup (stays frozen) The delay varies from 15s to 60s. FIX: Change service startup type to Automatic (Delayed) instead of Automatic. Open services.msc Code: Service Startup type ASUS Com Service (asComSvc) Automatic (Delayed) ASUS HM Com Service (asHmComSvc) Automatic (Delayed) ASUS System Control Service (AsSysCtrlService) Automatic [*] AsusFanControlService Automatic (Delayed) (*) unchanged This will also fix the WMI error popup thrown by Samsung Magician at startup. I would advise to disable Samsung Magician automatic startup which isn't that useful. - Context OS: Windows 7 Professional x64 (with almost all important updates + ESU updates) (UEFI) Motherboard: ASUS Z97-DELUXE/USB 3.1 HDD: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB (S250NSAG526651F) Samsung Magician version: 6.2.1 ASUS Ai Suite version: see screenshot here Best regards
Seems like this issue is caused by services from ASUS AI Suite software. - ISSUE: AI Suite (its services) causes a delay after windows session logon. The following components are affected by this delay: - running application as admin - network connection setup (stays frozen) The delay varies from 15s to 60s. FIX: Change service startup type to Automatic (Delayed) instead of Automatic. Open services.msc Code: Service Startup type ASUS Com Service (asComSvc) Automatic (Delayed) ASUS HM Com Service (asHmComSvc) Automatic (Delayed) ASUS System Control Service (AsSysCtrlService) Automatic [*] AsusFanControlService Automatic (Delayed) (*) unchanged This will also fix the WMI error popup thrown by Samsung Magician at startup. I would advise to disable Samsung Magician automatic startup which isn't that useful. - Context OS: Windows 7 Professional x64 (with almost all important updates + ESU updates) (UEFI) Motherboard: ASUS Z97-DELUXE/USB 3.1 HDD: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB (S250NSAG526651F) Samsung Magician version: 6.2.1 ASUS Ai Suite version: see screenshot here Best regards