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    Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Hello everyone i'm getting high or annoying DPC latency on all nvidia drivers, my specs are:

    Motherboard: Ab350 fatality k4 gaming
    GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6GB
    CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 (no oc)
    Ram: Patriot 2x4 single rank memories on dual channel no oc 2135
    OS: Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit fully updated through (windows-mini-update tool)

    And when opening Latency Mon i get high spikes on the Nvlddmkm.sys + dxgkrnl.sys
    I have all libraries from Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 to 2017
    I have the whole libraries of DirectX, i have latest amd-chipset drivers, latest Nvidia drivers, tried audio drivers from my manufacturer, ethernet drivers latest
    And problem persist.... x.x


    Also i don't know it seems that i have tearing effect too, such a horizontal transparent line even in desktop or when browsing or seeing videos.. it is very annoying.. :/
    This never happens before in Windows 10. sorry for my poor English.
    Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU-latency1-pngRyzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU-latency2-jpg


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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Hi x58haze.

    Please, read POSTING INSTRUCTIONS for DPC/ISR latency, stuttering, cracks/pops. (click) (and provide the logs).

    This is the link for The Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit - Windows ADK (click) you must use instead of the link for windows 10 sdk.

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by xilolee View Post
    Hi x58haze.

    Please, read POSTING INSTRUCTIONS for DPC/ISR latency, stuttering, cracks/pops. (click) (and provide the logs).

    This is the link for The Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit - Windows ADK (click) you must use instead of the link for windows 10 sdk.

    Thanks for your help Xilolee, but when trying to do the xperf -on DiagEasy via CMD elevated i get this error:
    Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU-help-png


    Also here is the SPECCY CLIPBOARD:
    http://speccy.piriform.com/results/qXFk0FD6Vl6YGCPkWEwGWOD

    Also im attaching Dxdiag+ Msinfo32

    Needed to host the Msinfo32.nfo because the attachment here doesn't work on .nfo extensions

    Msinfo32.nfo mediafire link ------> msinfo32
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by x58haze View Post
    when trying to do the xperf -on DiagEasy via CMD elevated i get this error:
    Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU-help-png
    When you set the PATH environment variable, you should use the default path for windows 7/8/8.1.
    Most likely C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.1\Windows Performance Toolkit\.
    I.e., you must change 10 with 8.1 (or the correct path).

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    AsRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 (about $100, chipset AMD Promontory B350, socket AM4) was released in March/April 2017.
    BIOS is updated to the latest available one: did you "load optimized defaults"?
    MB doesn't support OSs before windows 10.
    I.e., Windows 7 ultimate x64 isn't supported.
    Windows 7 was released in July 2009 and will officially die in January 2020.
    At least, this is true seeing MB specs.
    But in their support webpage, they still show Win7/8/8.1 x86 & x64 available files to be downloaded (and windows 8 is officially died).

    Cpu amd ryzen 5 1600 was released in April 2017.
    (Taken from MB cpu support list: AM4 Ryzen 5 1600 (YD1600BBM6IAE) "Summit Ridge" "Rev b1" "Freq 3.2GHz" "power 65W" "Cache 3MB" "bios P1.30")
    Ray_m, "Technical Support Engineer 2", on amd forums (community.amd.com) said: "All new CPU's are only supported under Windows 10".

    Not sure about the RAM model PV48G320C6K I found on my own: Viper 4 extreme performance series DDR4-3200 (PC4-25600) 8gb (2x4GB) kit NON-ECC unbuffered 16-18-18-36 1.35v (SPD 2133 --> PC4-17000, 15-15-15-36).
    IF that model is the right one, it is present in memory QVL of the MB (therefore, it should be compatible and tested in a real machine).
    Not sure about what slots are used (?).

    Not sure about the graphics card model (?): EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 1506/1708 MHz (7 different models are available).

    NVIDIA drivers updated to the latest available ones: 388.71.
    Crucial SSD CT240M500SSD1: firmware updated to the latest one.

    Current ram speed seems to be 2128 (1064 shown by speccy).
    Ram speeds supported by MB: DDR4 3200+(OC)/2933(OC)/2667/2400/2133.
    Ram speeds supported by cpu: 2667MHz DDR4.
    Cpu shows "Core Speed: 3691.2 MHz, while the "Max Turbo Core Speed" (from cpu specs) is 3.6GHz (3600).

    Open device manager, universal serial bus controllers, and try right-click --> update driver on all USB 3.1 and 3.0 items.
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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    It seems a software to crack Microsoft products is present on your machine.

    If you shouldn't be aware/conscious of it, I suggest you a full scan with your antivirus and antimalware.
    By the way, it is better (faster and more secure) to use an antivirus offline (example: kaspersky rescue cd, that's free).
    If instead you should be aware/conscious of it, you should also be aware that in public (and serious) forums it isn't allowed to help (nor trying to help ) someone who activated software with cracks (or similar tools, however they are called).

    You have to purchase and install a genuine copy of that MS product, or you should uninstall that MS product and its related crack software.
    Last edited by xilolee; 12-25-2017 at 09:34 AM.

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by xilolee View Post
    It seems a software to crack Microsoft products is present on your machine.

    If you shouldn't be aware/conscious of it, I suggest you a full scan with your antivirus and antimalware.
    By the way, it is better (faster and more secure) to use an antivirus offline (example: kaspersky rescue cd, that's free).
    If instead you should be aware/conscious of it, you should also be aware that in public (and serious) forums it isn't allowed to help (nor trying to help ) someone who activated software with cracks (or similar tools, however they are called).

    You have to purchase and install a genuine copy of that MS product, or you should uninstall that MS product and its related crack software.

    Yeah but here in Venezuela aff situation, rather than buy a MS product, i prefer to eat, my computer you see its a ryzen with an evga gtx 1060, yeah that maybe expensive, but that was an opportunity 1/ billion, because a friend suggest me a good job with a game called runescape back in 2017 may, and i had an old machine, and i was gifted also with an Evga gtx 1060

    Aff I really don't know what to do wish i can learn more about tracing and things like that, do you think my problem is a Pirated OS? because I did Viper tweaks to set manually many services, but also before doing that i created a system restore and problem persist

    In fact when i fresh install this windows 7, wish was a clean ISO from Microsoft i didn't use any activator, but i notice that there were glitches in the desktop, on this ryzen machine, so i don't know what to do

    Sorry for my poor English.

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by x58haze View Post
    wish i can learn more about tracing and things like that, do you think my problem is a Pirated OS? because I did Viper tweaks to set manually many services, but also before doing that i created a system restore and problem persist
    I wish I can learn it too.
    I only know two things: 1) I/we can not (try to) help you until there's a crack and 2) these problems appear also in genuine installations.

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by xilolee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by x58haze View Post
    wish i can learn more about tracing and things like that, do you think my problem is a Pirated OS? because I did Viper tweaks to set manually many services, but also before doing that i created a system restore and problem persist
    I wish I can learn it too.
    I only know two things: 1) I/we can not (try to) help you until there's a crack and 2) these problems appear also in genuine installations.
    But i don't understand windows offered clean ISO from their Web-site, and they bring it to us with a Trial<-- of 30 days, to test their features such changing themes or customization in Windows 10 at least, but that's just a trial of 30 day if i remember, when the trial finish, windows keep clean and original if Understand, the only changes is that, we not longer can customize windows 100% thats all ? if I understand

    So i can get a clean iso from windows 7 via microsoft or Upgrade I guess, and probably i will be getting the trial again..

    i know crack means using KMS pico, or daz loader, that can harm a clean iso from Microsoft.

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    I want to Download windows 8.1 and test on Ryzen, and do a modify with the updates, to avoid the (Unsupported hardware) via windows update, because most users loves windows 7,8 and 8,1 rather than windows 10, even if users pay money for licences... i think that's not being pirate i guess. :/ Windows forcing everyone to windows 10 is not cool.

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    Re: Ryzen on windows 7 HELP! LATENCY GPU

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Watts View Post
    it would be pointless for us to help with a pirated machine, as it'll be lacking the relevant updates from MS, hardware support etc, and the hack may break functionality...
    Verify better the things I've checked in previous posts.
    Although it could be also a hardware problem and it's not certain a windows 10 genuine installation will correct this problem.

    You might consider to try a recent (open-source and free) Linux version.

    At the moment, I must close the topic. Sorry.
    Last edited by xilolee; 12-25-2017 at 02:27 PM.
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