New computer issues with lock up at black screen when shutdown

LilBambi

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Hi, my friend has a brand new Dell XPS 8500 with ATI/AMD Radeon 7770 video card; Intel Core i7 (Ivy Bridge).

From the first day she got the computer, it started having problems locking up hard for no apparent reason. Just total lock up. Happened again the 2nd day.

When it happened, it would not boot right on the reboot. It would show no signal on the monitor (made me think video card), but sometimes you could get it to come back. Then by the end of the 2nd day, would not boot at all. Dell sent a tech to replace the motherboard and power supply. I asked them to send the video card but they felt it was the power supply and maybe even the motherboard.

The tech put in the power supply and motherboard and the fans would come on again, but still would not work (no signal on monitor). Tech talked to Dell and they overnighted the video card which I put in and it started working after installing the new card.

But here's the problem. It had crashed hard several times and had to be shutdown hard. All seemed to be find but we got an update for the new dell monitor (which may be coincidental since we did that right after coming back up). Anyway, it works fine while it's working (so far -- may still lock up later since it took hours for it to act up the first day and second day). But working fine except if you shut down, it goes to black screen, the monitor stays on, and it won't finish shutting down.

It appears to now be some sort of driver issue or Windows issue, but hard to tell for sure. All the peripherals are the same as the ones that were on their old Sandy Bridge Intel Core i7 computer. Or maybe there is a memory issue as well (they didn't replace the memory or the CPU).

Any thoughts or questions, off the cuff?

I may be able to do a remote session over the weekend, but had to leave without finishing because I had an appt across town to get to so couldn't get anything substantial to determine if this may still be a hardware issue and they should just get their money back or if this is some weird driver issue causing this.
 
From the first day she got the computer, it started having problems locking up hard for no apparent reason. Just total lock up. Happened again the 2nd day.

That was really the only sentence I needed to read in a situation like this. If a brand new desktop / laptop is having issues day ONE (literally out of the box), then it is a hardware fault and should be replaced and not tampered with. I'm pretty sure it can be replaced wherever it was purchased depending on the warranty. If not, go directly to the manufacturer.

Regards,

Patrick
 
This sounds a lot like one of those issues caused by Dell trying to beat around the bush by replacing parts for a new faulty system when they should just bite the bullet and replace the whole system. It's not worth this kind of headache to try and replace each suspect component until you find one that is faulty, it's better off just to ship out the old one and replace it with a new one.

I recommend they be pressured for a full replacement. Be respectful about it, but aggressive, and let them be aware that you and your friend are tired of this and just want a new system. The warranty should give the right to do so.
 
Yeah, that's what I thought too. They said if it didn't work after the video card, they can send out a new computer. She could keep the hard drive (since it has all her stuff on it and it's a lot of data for her hubby's business), from the other defective computer. But they wanted to see if they this fixed the problem. Well, it fixed some of it but now a new issue. Really frustrating.

Feels like a lemon to me.
 
Just talked to my friend and she is gonna call them and see if they will send out a new computer like they offered before (since she has 21 days to get new computer or refund per Dell).

She will call me back after she talks to them again today.
 
When the new Intel Core i7 (Sandy Bridge) came out, a client bought one direct from Dell like my friend did. It had problems from day one too -- different ones and he worked with Dell but never got satisfaction. Still locks up periodically on his.

My friend's old Intel Core i7 (Sandy Bridge) that they bought was great till she started having problems with it overheating and then she wanted to get a new one; but this new one, the Ivy Bridge one is a lemon.

Never can tell with Dell what you are gonna get sadly.
 
That's true. You aren't getting Dell for quality and reliability, that's for sure. There may be a fluke with the Dell motherboards dealing with the Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge. I wouldn't put it past them to take forever to fix these problems (if ever).

Hope it turns out better for your friend.
 
She talked to her hubby and he totally agrees with all of us. He wants her to get an RMA and return the defective computer after I wipe the drive for her (since her hubby's biz stuff is on it). Then he wants to get one from a local brick and mortar store. He's had it.
 
OK, computer has been returned to Dell within the 21 days warranty time to return for full refund.

Went looking locally for a 3nd Gen Ivybridge Intel Core i7 with 16GB RAM like he wanted and none of the local retail outlets had anything like that.

So we went to HP this time and ordered one there. Hopefully it will work out better than it did with Dell. Keeping fingers crossed. Should come in within 9 days or so.
 
They are also. Let's hope HP will give him a better made system that's been tested well and not a piece of ... well you know. ;)

They ended up paying more for basically the same hardware...so we are hopeful.
 
If you are looking for that kind of system you are honestly better off building one...

OEMs are known to cut corners to have a higher profit margin...
If I had to pick a manufacturer to go with I would probably choose Asus, I have never had any problems with them... A few returns/replacements but they were very easy.
 
I hear you. We looked at some Asus computers. I love their motherboards, but their systems are not as well done as their motherboards sadly. Very cheaply made were the ones I saw.

I would have built it for them but it would have cost them too much. The better value sadly was with an OEM.
 
You are correct that their systems are nowhere near the quality of their mobos...

I have only ever had slight issues with their builds and I have never had an issue with their customer service... As for OEMs they are my favorite :grin1:

How much did the system end up costing?

I imagine running a system with a i7-37XX + 7700 would run ~$1000+ you could likely build something of higher quality for about that...
 

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