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    Choose the best cabinet.

    Hi, I'd like you to help me with the choice of a gamer cabinet. I'm looking for one with aggressive design and good finish. My budget is $150. Currently I have to say that the one I like the most is the nzxt noctis 450 rog. But if someone suggests another very grateful. I must clarify that I live in a very hot and humid area. Well thank you very much. Best regards.


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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    I also liked the nzxt h630 and the gigabyte ac300w. Among the three chosen cabinets, which one do I keep? Which is the best? Thank you very much. Best regards.

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      • Graphics:
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        WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA III 7200rpm, WD Caviar Black 6TB SATA III 7200rpm
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      • Power Supply:
        Corsair HX 750W 80+ Platinum
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R6
      • Cooling:
        Noctua NH-D14
      • Display:
        Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K 3840x2160
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Hi!

    I would certainly recommend Fractal Design Define r6. If that is too expensive for you, opt for Fractal Design Meshify C.
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    One last question the Define R6 Blackout TG is okay? Or should I choose another one? Thank you very much. Best regards.

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      • CPU:
        Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Pushed to 3.9GHz
      • Memory:
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      • Disk Drives:
        Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 850 EVO 250GB SSD, Blu-ray R/W
      • Power Supply:
        EVGA Supernova 550W Gold
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R4 Mid Tower w/Window
      • Cooling:
        2 x 140mm case fans, OEM CPU Cooler
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    I'm looking for one with aggressive design and good finish.
    I don't know what you mean by "aggressive" design but I have found over the years that a classic conservative design is best for a few good reasons, partly based on personal opinion, partly based on fact.
    1. The primary role of any case is to protect and cool the components inside. That includes protection from accidental kicks and bumps. It also means the case must supply plenty of cooling options.

    2. A case should sit discreetly and quietly off to the side and not draw attention to itself. After all, it is what's on your monitor(s) and coming through your speakers that's important. This is why I personally don't go for flashy lights inside my case. They do absolutely nothing for performance, consume extra power, generate some heat and do absolutely nothing for performance (worth repeating), all while creating a "fadish" distraction away from what's happening on our monitors. Sure, they may look cool at first, but once the newness and novelty wear off, meh!

    3. A good case should provide excellent noise suppression (I hate fan noise!). This is typically accomplished by solid construction, vibration isolation, and the use of noise dampening/absorption materials.

    4. A good case should provide excellent cable management options. This includes tie-back options, routing behind the motherboard (if case is wide enough) and grommetted pass-throughs. Proper cable management does not just look tidy and professional. It also helps minimize dust traps. But most importantly, it minimizes the adverse impact on the desired cooling air flow through the case.

    5. A case should be well made, properly "finished" and "true". By finished I mean the sheet metal edges should rolled or smoothed so they don't slice your knuckles with rough, razor sharp jagged edges. The side panels should easily slip in and out and align properly. By "true" I mean the corners and bends should be exactly 90.0 bends. Exact 90 bends ensure all 4 feet sit squarely on the floor so the case will not wobble. Exact placement of the motherboard mounting holes (along with the case being "true") ensures no excess strain or stress on the motherboard when mounted, or stress on the expansion cards or card slots when cards are installed.

    6. A case should include easy to remove, washable air filters to minimize the need to break-down the computer and lug it outside for proper cleaning out of heat trapping dust.
    The problem with cases with fancy facades is they then tend to be "fadish". And like all fads, they fall out of fashion in a very short time. A classic, conservative design will look stylish for many years to come. Also cases with fancy facades typically have lots of little ridges, cracks, corners, indentations and other places that serve no function but to collect dust in hard to clean places!

    I also very much like Fractal Design cases and have been using them on most of our builds over the last few years. I have the Design R4 with this computer and love it. I also highly recommend the updated version of the R4, the FD Define R6. The classic design always be in style and will look great through years of evolving computer upgrades and rebuilds. It has outstanding cooling options. Excellent filtering and the included large fans are among the quietest I have ever (never!) heard. It is lined with excellent sound dampening materials to suppress fan noise (did I mention I hate fan noise?) and cable management options.
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Thank you so much for the explanation. Every day you learn something new. Then I go for the r6. I thank you again. Cordial greetings.

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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Hi, last question before we close. I currently have an artic 13, approximately 4 years ago that I have it. Do you recommend me some cooler for the cpu better than the artic 13? Thank you very much. Greetings.

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      • Graphics:
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      • Power Supply:
        Corsair HX 750W 80+ Platinum
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R6
      • Cooling:
        Noctua NH-D14
      • Display:
        Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K 3840x2160
      • Operating System:
        Windows 10 Pro 1803 x64

    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    It all depends on how much power you need and if you are going to be doing some serious overclocking. I use Noctua NH-D14 and while not aesthetically too pleasing, it's performance is superb and I cannot hear it at all.


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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Hi, thank you very much. I have an i7-7700 and it is yielding at higher frequency for the strix b250f motherboard. Greetings.

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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    In my country the noctua are very expensive since they bring them from usa. Will there be any other option? Thank you very much. Greetings.

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      • Power Supply:
        Corsair HX 750W 80+ Platinum
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R6
      • Cooling:
        Noctua NH-D14
      • Display:
        Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K 3840x2160
      • Operating System:
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    7700 is not unlocked and therefore I do not see the need for a better cooling solution and especially not the noctua. I only mentioned it in case you were overclocking.
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    So it's not necessary to change the cooler? Thank you very much.

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      • Graphics:
        Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming 8 GB
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        WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA III 7200rpm, WD Caviar Black 6TB SATA III 7200rpm
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      • Power Supply:
        Corsair HX 750W 80+ Platinum
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R6
      • Cooling:
        Noctua NH-D14
      • Display:
        Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K 3840x2160
      • Operating System:
        Windows 10 Pro 1803 x64

    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    If you are happy with the performance for now, no, it is not. You can always change that down the road if needed.


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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    This overclocked 20% could recommend me a quiet and effective cpu cooler? Thank you very much.

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      • Motherboard:
        Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
      • CPU:
        Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Pushed to 3.9GHz
      • Memory:
        2 X 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000
      • Graphics:
        EVGA GeForce GTX 1050TI 04G-P4-6251-KR, 4GB GDDR5
      • Sound Card:
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      • Disk Drives:
        Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 850 EVO 250GB SSD, Blu-ray R/W
      • Power Supply:
        EVGA Supernova 550W Gold
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R4 Mid Tower w/Window
      • Cooling:
        2 x 140mm case fans, OEM CPU Cooler
      • Display:
        2 x Samsung S24E650BW 24 inch WS
      • Operating System:
        Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Remember, it is the case's responsibility to supply a sufficient supply of cool air flowing through the case. The CPU cooler need only toss the CPU's heat into that air flow. If your old cooler kept your CPU adequately cooled with your old case, there's no reason a new case that offers better case cooling will not provide just as good, if not better cooling support for your CPU and all the other components inside too.
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Hi, thank you very much. I'll go for the r6 and add 140mm coolers and I won't change the cpu cooler. You can close the topic. Thanks again to both of you. Best regards.

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      • Manufacturer:
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      • Model Number:
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      • Motherboard:
        Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
      • CPU:
        Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Pushed to 3.9GHz
      • Memory:
        2 X 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000
      • Graphics:
        EVGA GeForce GTX 1050TI 04G-P4-6251-KR, 4GB GDDR5
      • Sound Card:
        Integrated
      • Disk Drives:
        Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 850 EVO 250GB SSD, Blu-ray R/W
      • Power Supply:
        EVGA Supernova 550W Gold
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R4 Mid Tower w/Window
      • Cooling:
        2 x 140mm case fans, OEM CPU Cooler
      • Display:
        2 x Samsung S24E650BW 24 inch WS
      • Operating System:
        Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    I'll go for the r6 and add 140mm coolers
    Understand the R6 comes with 2 x Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-14 140mm pre-installed in front, and another 140mm in the rear. These are excellent fans so I doubt you will need to add anymore. In fact, I bet you will be able to set the included fan speed control to slow down the fans to make them even quieter and still maintain great, and cool, temps.

    So, IMO, don't buy any extra fans until you give the included fans a try.
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Thanks a lot, best regards.

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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    Hello, is the Gamemax Iceberg 240 good? Does it enter the cabinet? Thank you very much in advance. Best regards.

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      • Memory:
        Crucial 2x8GB DDR4 2666 MHz
      • Graphics:
        Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming 8 GB
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        Asus Xonar DSX
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        WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA III 7200rpm, WD Caviar Black 6TB SATA III 7200rpm
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      • Power Supply:
        Corsair HX 750W 80+ Platinum
      • Case:
        Fractal Design Define R6
      • Cooling:
        Noctua NH-D14
      • Display:
        Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K 3840x2160
      • Operating System:
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    Re: Choose the best cabinet.

    That's way above your needs.


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