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    [W10ProV1703b15063 x64] 0xA and 0x1000007E BCs, prob. caused by memory_corruption.

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    Hello, I've looked at your dumps and here's the output:

    Code:
    winio64.sys Fri Jun 4 06:08:03 2010 (4C087C23)  
    Nuvoton Technology Corporation PCIeBridge[br]Part of MSI Dragoon Gaming  Center also None at Nuvoton Tech 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=winio64.sys 
    
    I2cHkBurn.sys  Tue Feb 18 02:34:54 2014 (5302B8BE) 
    
    I2cHkBurn.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as  of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information  is needed. 
    
    MpKsle4339c30.sys Wed May 20  03:50:37 2015 (555BE86D) 
    
    MpKsle4339c30.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the  DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    MpKsl05b7fafb.sys Wed  May 20 03:50:37 2015 (555BE86D) 
    
    MpKsl05b7fafb.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the  DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    MpKsl1073243f.sys Wed  May 20 03:50:37 2015 (555BE86D) 
    
    MpKsl1073243f.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the  DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    MpKsl15aee33d.sys Wed  May 20 03:50:37 2015 (555BE86D) 
    
    MpKsl15aee33d.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the  DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    MpKsl1b55a825.sys Wed  May 20 03:50:37 2015 (555BE86D) 
    
    MpKsl1b55a825.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the  DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    MpKsl18a9b185.sys Wed  May 20 03:50:37 2015 (555BE86D) 
    
    MpKsl18a9b185.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the  DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    amdgpio3.sys Mon Mar 14 11:19:36 2016  (56E69038) 
    
    amdgpio3.sys -  this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search  Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.  
    
    amdgpio2.sys Tue Aug 9 12:05:07 2016 (57A9AAD3) 
    
    amdgpio2.sys - this driver hasn't been  added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if  additional information is needed. 
    
    rzendpt.sys Wed Oct 26 10:12:17  2016 (58106561) 
    Razer RzEndPt driver Razer Support 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=rzendpt.sys 
    
    rzudd.sys Wed Oct 26 10:12:19 2016  (58106563) 
    Razer Rzudd Engine Driver  Razer Support 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=rzudd.sys 
    
    NTIOLib_X64.sys Wed Mar 8 08:31:44  2017 (58BFB360) 
    MSI Afterburner driver (known BSOD  issues with Windows) Also found to be a part of MSI Live Update 5, MSI Super  Charger & MSI Smart Utilities.[br] [br] Recently (Nov 2014) there have been  numerous instances of this driver in memory dumps. Analysis reveals that they  are scattered throughout the filesystem by the installed MSI command utilities.  For now I suggest uninstalling them all.  http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=NTIOLib_X64.sys 
    
    AMDRyzenMasterDriver.sys Tue  Apr 25 07:40:43 2017 (58FEE15B) 
    
    AMDRyzenMasterDriver.sys - this driver hasn't been added to  the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional  information is needed. 
    
    nvhda64v.sys Tue May 16 15:02:27 2017  (591AF863) 
    nVidia HDMI Audio Device (nForce chipset driver)  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvhda64v.sys 
    
    rt640x64.sys Fri May 26 09:02:29  2017 (5927D305) 
    Realtek NICDRV 8169 PCIe GBE Family Controller driver [br]  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false  
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=rt640x64.sys 
    
    nvvad64v.sys Mon May 29 01:04:45  2017 (592B578D) 
    NVIDIA Virtual Audio Driver  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvvad64v.sys 
    
    amdpsp.sys Mon Jun 5 23:25:16  2017 (5935CC3C) 
    Part of AMD chipset http://support.amd.com/en-us 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=amdpsp.sys 
    
    RTKVHD64.sys Wed Jun 14 07:58:31  2017 (5940D087) 
    Realtek High Definition Audio Function Driver  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...Level=3&Conn=2  
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys 
    
    rzpnk.sys Sun Jul 16 21:12:07  2017 (596BBA87) 
    Razer Overlay Support http://www.razersupport.com/software  
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=rzpnk.sys 
    
    rzpmgrk.sys Tue Jul 18 23:15:21 2017  (596E7A69) 
    Razer Overlay Support Driver Razer Support 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=rzpmgrk.sys 
    
    nvlddmkm.sys Tue Aug 22 00:05:02  2017 (599B590E) 
    nVidia Video drivers  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx[br]Get from OEM for laptops 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvlddmkm.sys 
    
    EasyAntiCheat.sys Tue Sep 5  15:01:41 2017 (59AEA035) 
    Easy Anti Cheat Driver (Used to prevent cheating in  video games) Download - http://www.easyanticheat.net/[br]Contact -  http://www.easyanticheat.net/#contact[br] 
    http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=EasyAntiCheat.sys 
    
    
    Code:
    
    Debug session time: Wed Sep  6 01:40:42.823 2017 (UTC + 2:00)
    
    Loading Dump File [D:\SysnativeBSODApps\090517-5468-01.dmp]
    
    System Uptime: 0 days 1:41:16.464
    
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiIdentifyPfn+1ad )
    
    BugCheck A, {48, 2, 1, fffff8033ee7b22d}
    
    BugCheck Info: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)
    
    Bugcheck code 0000000A
    
    Arguments: 
    
    Arg1: 0000000000000048, memory referenced
    
    Arg2: 0000000000000002, IRQL
    
    Arg3: 0000000000000001, bitfield :
    
        bit 0 : value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
    
        bit 3 : value 0 = not an execute operation, 1 = execute operation (only on chips which support this level of status)
    
    Arg4: fffff8033ee7b22d, address which referenced memory
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  svchost.exe
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  AV_nt!MiIdentifyPfn
    
    BiosVersion = H.10
    
    BiosReleaseDate = 03/16/2017
    
    SystemManufacturer = Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
    
    SystemProductName = MS-7A34
    
    BaseBoardProduct = B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC(MS-7A34)
    
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    
    Debug session time: Mon Sep  4 21:03:14.638 2017 (UTC + 2:00)
    
    Loading Dump File [D:\SysnativeBSODApps\090417-5062-01.dmp]
    
    Built by: 15063.0.amd64fre.rs2_release.170317-1834
    
    System Uptime: 0 days 2:30:55.281
    
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiDemoteCombinedPte+1e )
    
    BugCheck 1000007E, {ffffffffc0000005, fffff8036a88980e, ffffa200c5645d58, ffffa200c56455a0}
    
    BugCheck Info: SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M (1000007e)
    
    Bugcheck code 1000007E
    
    Arguments: 
    
    Arg1: ffffffffc0000005, The exception code that was not handled
    
    Arg2: fffff8036a88980e, The address that the exception occurred at
    
    Arg3: ffffa200c5645d58, Exception Record Address
    
    Arg4: ffffa200c56455a0, Context Record Address
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  RustClient.exe
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  AV
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN8_DRIVER_FAULT
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  AV_nt!MiDemoteCombinedPte
    
    BiosVersion = H.10
    
    BiosReleaseDate = 03/16/2017
    
    SystemManufacturer = Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
    
    SystemProductName = MS-7A34
    
    BaseBoardProduct = B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC(MS-7A34)
    
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    
    Debug session time: Sat Sep  2 22:55:17.243 2017 (UTC + 2:00)
    
    Loading Dump File [D:\SysnativeBSODApps\090217-5671-01.dmp]
    
    Built by: 15063.0.amd64fre.rs2_release.170317-1834
    
    System Uptime: 0 days 2:02:18.855
    
    Probably caused by : Unknown_Image ( ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE )
    
    BugCheck 1A, {403, fffff98000bbd660, 86000003d7f02847, ff7ff98000bbd660}
    
    BugCheck Info: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)
    
    Bugcheck code 0000001A
    
    Arguments: 
    
    Arg1: 0000000000000403, The subtype of the bugcheck.
    
    Arg2: fffff98000bbd660
    
    Arg3: 86000003d7f02847
    
    Arg4: ff7ff98000bbd660
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x1a_403
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  RustClient.exe
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  ZEROED_STACK_0x1a_403
    
    BiosVersion = H.10
    
    BiosReleaseDate = 03/16/2017
    
    SystemManufacturer = Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
    
    SystemProductName = MS-7A34
    
    BaseBoardProduct = B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC(MS-7A34)
    
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    
    Debug session time: Sat Sep  2 01:56:08.370 2017 (UTC + 2:00)
    
    Loading Dump File [D:\SysnativeBSODApps\090117-5437-01.dmp]
    
    Built by: 15063.0.amd64fre.rs2_release.170317-1834
    
    System Uptime: 0 days 2:20:05.009
    
    Probably caused by : Unknown_Image ( ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE )
    
    BugCheck 109, {a39ff8dc8e12b8ff, 0, 4f0b7e8eecb76230, 101}
    
    BugCheck Info: CRITICAL_STRUCTURE_CORRUPTION (109)
    
    Bugcheck code 00000109
    
    Arguments: 
    
    Arg1: a39ff8dc8e12b8ff, Reserved
    
    Arg2: 0000000000000000, Reserved
    
    Arg3: 4f0b7e8eecb76230, Failure type dependent information
    
    Arg4: 0000000000000101, Type of corrupted region, can be
    
        0   : A generic data region
    
        1   : Modification of a function or .pdata
    
        2   : A processor IDT
    
        3   : A processor GDT
    
        4   : Type 1 process list corruption
    
        5   : Type 2 process list corruption
    
        6   : Debug routine modification
    
        7   : Critical MSR modification
    
        8   : Object type
    
        9   : A processor IVT
    
        a   : Modification of a system service function
    
        b   : A generic session data region
    
        c   : Modification of a session function or .pdata
    
        d   : Modification of an import table
    
        e   : Modification of a session import table
    
        f   : Ps Win32 callout modification
    
        10  : Debug switch routine modification
    
        11  : IRP allocator modification
    
        12  : Driver call dispatcher modification
    
        13  : IRP completion dispatcher modification
    
        14  : IRP deallocator modification
    
        15  : A processor control register
    
        16  : Critical floating point control register modification
    
        17  : Local APIC modification
    
        18  : Kernel notification callout modification
    
        19  : Loaded module list modification
    
        1a  : Type 3 process list corruption
    
        1b  : Type 4 process list corruption
    
        1c  : Driver object corruption
    
        1d  : Executive callback object modification
    
        1e  : Modification of module padding
    
        1f  : Modification of a protected process
    
        20  : A generic data region
    
        21  : A page hash mismatch
    
        22  : A session page hash mismatch
    
        23  : Load config directory modification
    
        24  : Inverted function table modification
    
        25  : Session configuration modification
    
        26  : An extended processor control register
    
        27  : Type 1 pool corruption
    
        28  : Type 2 pool corruption
    
        29  : Type 3 pool corruption
    
        2a  : Type 4 pool corruption
    
        101 : General pool corruption
    
        102 : Modification of win32k.sys
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x109
    
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  ZEROED_STACK_0x109
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  csrss.exe
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  ZEROED_STACK_0x109
    
    BiosVersion = H.10
    
    BiosReleaseDate = 03/16/2017
    
    SystemManufacturer = Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
    
    SystemProductName = MS-7A34
    
    BaseBoardProduct = B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC(MS-7A34)
    
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    
    Debug session time: Fri Sep  1 23:32:37.499 2017 (UTC + 2:00)
    
    Loading Dump File [D:\SysnativeBSODApps\090117-5062-01.dmp]
    
    Built by: 15063.0.amd64fre.rs2_release.170317-1834
    
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:30:37.274
    
    Probably caused by : Unknown_Image ( ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE )
    
    BugCheck 1A, {41201, ffff848000167880, 860000019de24847, ffffa185869e14a0}
    
    BugCheck Info: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)
    
    Bugcheck code 0000001A
    
    Arguments: 
    
    Arg1: 0000000000041201, The subtype of the bugcheck.
    
    Arg2: ffff848000167880
    
    Arg3: 860000019de24847
    
    Arg4: ffffa185869e14a0
    
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x1a_41201
    
    PROCESS_NAME:  RustClient.exe
    
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  ZEROED_STACK_0x1a_41201
    
    BiosVersion = H.10
    
    BiosReleaseDate = 03/16/2017
    
    SystemManufacturer = Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
    
    SystemProductName = MS-7A34
    
    BaseBoardProduct = B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC(MS-7A34)
    
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    
    
    
    
    
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    I'd recommend following these instructions:
    Test RAM With Memtest86+

    If that doesn't yield any results, please do the following:
    Driver Verifier - BSOD related - Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7 & Vista

    I also see a lot of errors related to Realtek HD Audio manager, so try to find a newer version. Try to find newer versions of the drivers highlighted in red as well.

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    Hi Jordy111.


    New bios: 7A34vH6 2017-07-28
    There are also new drivers (always on manufacturer website).
    Ram speed: 1067MHz --- Why?
    Ram model: CMD32GX4
    CPU: Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six-Core Processor, 3600 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard: B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC

    CPU should support memory till 2667MHz.
    MB should support memory till 2400 (without overclocking).
    The manual says: "It is recommended to use a more efficient memory cooling system for full DIMMs installation or overclocking".
    Compatible ram found on MB website:

    • CMD32GX4M4A2400C14
    • CMD32GX4M4A2666C15
    • CMD32GX4M4A2666C16
    • CMD32GX4M4A2800C15
    • CMD32GX4M4A2800C16
    • CMD32GX4M4B3733C17





    If I'm not wrong (and I could be wrong about the model): Corsair Dominator Platinum Schwarz, Platin (4 x 8GB).
    It would be better to have the correct model.

    Specs: CMD32GX4M4B3000C15 C15 3000MHz DRAM DDR4 32GB (4 x 8GB) Dominator Platinum Series

    4 x 8GB memory modulesDominator Airflow Platinum LED Fan
    Compatibility

    • Asus X99 Deluxe and Rampage V Extreme



    Technical Specifications

    • Density: 32GB (4x8GB)
    • Speed: 3000MHz
    • Tested Latency: 15-17-17-35
    • Voltage: 1.35V
    • Format: Unbuffered DIMM
    • Pin Out: 288 Pin
    • Intel XMP 2.0
    • Heatspreader: Aluminum with DHX
    • SPD Latency 15-15-15-36
    • SPD Speed 2133MHz
    • SPD Voltage 1.2V
    • Speed Rating PC4-24000 (3000MHz)
    Last edited by xilolee; 09-15-2017 at 04:50 PM.

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    Quote Originally Posted by xilolee View Post
    Hi Jordy111.


    New bios: 7A34vH6 2017-07-28
    There are also new drivers (always on manufacturer website).
    Ram speed: 1067MHz --- Why?
    Ram model: CMD32GX4
    CPU: Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six-Core Processor, 3600 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)Motherboard: B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC

    CPU should support memory till 2667MHz.
    MB should support memory till 2400 (without overclocking).
    The manual says: "It is recommended to use a more efficient memory cooling system for full DIMMs installation or overclocking".
    Compatible ram found on MB website:

    • CMD32GX4M4A2400C14
    • CMD32GX4M4A2666C15
    • CMD32GX4M4A2666C16
    • CMD32GX4M4A2800C15
    • CMD32GX4M4A2800C16
    • CMD32GX4M4B3733C17





    If I'm not wrong (and I could be wrong about the model): Corsair Dominator Platinum Schwarz, Platin (4 x 8GB).
    It would be better to have the correct model.

    Specs: CMD32GX4M4B3000C15 C15 3000MHz DRAM DDR4 32GB (4 x 8GB) Dominator Platinum Series

    4 x 8GB memory modulesDominator Airflow Platinum LED Fan
    Compatibility

    • Asus X99 Deluxe and Rampage V Extreme



    Technical Specifications

    • Density: 32GB (4x8GB)
    • Speed: 3000MHz
    • Tested Latency: 15-17-17-35
    • Voltage: 1.35V
    • Format: Unbuffered DIMM
    • Pin Out: 288 Pin
    • Intel XMP 2.0
    • Heatspreader: Aluminum with DHX
    • SPD Latency 15-15-15-36
    • SPD Speed 2133MHz
    • SPD Voltage 1.2V
    • Speed Rating PC4-24000 (3000MHz)
    yea why tf is my ram saying 1067mhz its supposed to be 2400mhz

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    It's working in dual channel at 2133MHz, that's why it's 1067. Try adjusting it in BIOS.
    jordy111 and jcgriff2 say thanks for this.

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    Quote Originally Posted by softwaremaniac View Post
    It's working in dual channel at 2133MHz, that's why it's 1067. Try adjusting it in BIOS.
    ive changed alot of stuff in the bios and also i have been running it at 2400mhz and it still corrects itself to 1067mhz??... also do u know why it is running dual channel when its supposed to run quad

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    What other items in BIOS have you changed?

    You may want to reset to default settings.

  8. #8

    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    k i reset everything by, by using the cmos battery method (taking it out for 15secs) i just want my ram to properly be at 2400mhz... i will donate 10$cad if my problem becomes fixed

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    If you go to the folder created by the Sysnative/jcgriff2 app - SysnativeFileCollectionApp (it is in your Documents folder); then look for the file RAMInfo.html; 2x-click on it; it will open in your default web browser; scroll to the right and look for the "speed" column, you will see that it says "1067". This report comes from Windows Management Instrumentation and is ID'ing the default speed of your RAM - 1067 MHz

    How do you know that 1067 MHz is not the correct default speed?

    Install CPU-Z; click on "memory" tab; click on "SPD" tab -- see what numbers are displayed

    CPU-Z Download - CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

    I don't know how good this app is, but the info says it will ID RAM and RAM info. You may want to try it out - PassMark RAMMon - Identify RAM type, speed & memory timings

    Also - definitely run Speccy - Speccy - System Information - Free Download

    Click on "File"; "Publish Snapshot" -- then copy the published URL (click "copy to clipboard") and paste it into your next post.

    Regards. . .

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    Last edited by jcgriff2; 09-15-2017 at 12:41 AM.

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    I do not know hardware very well. I've never built a system. In fact all I have ever done was to add 2 sticks of RAM and replace a HDD in a laptop. That's the extent of my hardware experience.

    The reason I told you that is that I Googled your RAM and am seeing speeds of 3733MHz everywhere I look.

    I found that number via this Google search - CMD32GX4M4B3733C17 - Google Search

    So my guess would be a motherboard limitation of some kind is reducing the RAM speed.

    Regards. . .

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    RAMMon v1.0 Build: 1016 built with SysInfo v1.0 Build: 1121
    PassMark (R) Software - www.passmark.com


    Memory Summary For DESKTOP-G1412VO
    Number of Memory Devices: 4 Total Physical Memory: 32720 MB (32768 MB)
    Total Available Physical Memory: 29996 MB
    Memory Load: 8%


    Item Slot #1 Slot #2 Slot #3 Slot #4
    Ram Type DDR4 DDR4 DDR4 DDR4
    Maximum Clock Speed (MHz) 1067 (JEDEC) 1067 (JEDEC) 1067 (JEDEC) 1067 (JEDEC)
    Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR4-2133 DDR4-2133 DDR4-2133 DDR4-2133
    Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s) PC4-17000 PC4-17000 PC4-17000 PC4-17000
    Memory Capacity (MB) 8192 8192 8192 8192
    Jedec Manufacture Name
    Search Amazon.com Search! Search! Search! Search!
    SPD Revision 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
    Registered No No No No
    ECC No No No No
    DIMM Slot # 1 2 3 4
    Manufactured
    Module Part #
    Module Revision 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0
    Module Serial # 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0
    Module Manufacturing Location 0 0 0 0
    # of Row Addressing Bits 15 15 15 15
    # of Column Addressing Bits 10 10 10 10
    # of Banks 16 16 16 16
    # of Ranks 2 2 2 2
    Device Width in Bits 8 8 8 8
    Bus Width in Bits 64 64 64 64
    Module Voltage 1.2V 1.2V 1.2V 1.2V
    CAS Latencies Supported 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
    Timings @ Max Frequency (JEDEC) 15-15-15-36 15-15-15-36 15-15-15-36 15-15-15-36
    Maximum frequency (MHz) 1067 1067 1067 1067
    Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR4-2133 DDR4-2133 DDR4-2133 DDR4-2133
    Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s) PC4-17000 PC4-17000 PC4-17000 PC4-17000
    Minimum Clock Cycle Time, tCK (ns) 0.938 0.938 0.938 0.938
    Minimum CAS Latency Time, tAA (ns) 13.500 13.500 13.500 13.500
    Minimum RAS to CAS Delay, tRCD (ns) 13.500 13.500 13.500 13.500
    Minimum Row Precharge Time, tRP (ns) 13.500 13.500 13.500 13.500
    Minimum Active to Precharge Time, tRAS (ns) 33.000 33.000 33.000 33.000
    Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) 3.701 3.701 3.701 3.701
    Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Time, tRC (ns) 46.500 46.500 46.500 46.500
    Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC (ns) 260.000 260.000 260.000 260.000
    DDR4 Specific SPD Attributes
    Maximum Clock Cycle Time, tCKmax (ns) 1.500 1.500 1.500 1.500
    Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC2 (ns) 160.000 160.000 160.000 160.000
    Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC4 (ns) 110.000 110.000 110.000 110.000
    Minimum Activate to Activate Delay Time different bank group, tRRD_Smin (ns) 3.701 3.701 3.701 3.701
    Minimum Activate to Activate Delay Time same bank group, tRRD_Lmin (ns) 5.300 5.300 5.300 5.300
    Minimum CAS to CAS Delay Time same bank group, tCCD_Lmin (ns) 5.356 5.356 5.356 5.356
    Minimum Four Activate Window Delay (ns) 23.000 23.000 23.000 23.000
    Maximum Activate Window in units of tREFI 8192 8192 8192 8192
    Thermal Sensor Present Yes Yes Yes Yes
    DRAM Stepping 0 0 0 0
    DRAM Manufacture
    SDRAM Package Type Monolithic, 1 die, Single load stack Monolithic, 1 die, Single load stack Monolithic, 1 die, Single load stack Monolithic, 1 die, Single load stack
    Maxium Activate Count (MAC) Unlimited MAC Unlimited MAC Unlimited MAC Unlimited MAC
    Post Package Repair Supported No No No No
    Module Type UDIMM UDIMM UDIMM UDIMM
    Module Height (mm) 32 32 32 32
    Module Thickness (front), (mm) 2 2 2 2
    Module Thickness (back), (mm) 2 2 2 2
    Reference Raw Card Used Raw Card B Rev. 17 Raw Card B Rev. 17 Raw Card B Rev. 17 Raw Card B Rev. 17

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    From Tom's Hardware Forum (re: your RAM) -

    Ram speeds depends on quite a lot of factors, if the memory controller in the CPU can handle the speeds, and if the bios can hit the speeds, thats the main issues with ram speeds on RyZen at the moment is the bioses, I would still go for the 3200mhz though regardless, 2666mhz wont do 3200mhz, whereas 3200mhz will eventually hit its top speeds in the near future but for now should at least do 2933mhz.
    Ryzen 5 1600/Memory Speed - [Solved] - Overclocking


    spec page says it can handle up to 3200 OC RAM. Anyways testing indicates faster RAM helps the Intra-core communication of the Ryzen CPU, but the speed up seems to drop off after 2666, so probably not worth buying anything faster than that unless you just don't care about the price difference.
    Another Tom's Hardware thread - What Ram for Ryzen 5 1600 - [Solved] - Memory - Tom's Hardware

    So why is your RAM not showing 3200 MHz?

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    From your post #11 - the first thing that caught my eye:

    Maximum Clock Speed (MHz) 1067 (JEDEC) 1067 (JEDEC) 1067 (JEDEC) 1067 (JEDEC)

    All 4 RAM sticks are being reported as MAXIMUM clock speed of 1067 MHz.

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    yea and i don't know y but its screwing whit frame rates in games...

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    I have asked a hardware expert to review this thread. He won't get to it until tomorrow afternoon in all likelihood (it is 1:10 am here now)

    Please make sure that the Speccy link is posted in case he needs it to look at other hardware info. Thank you.

    Regards. . .

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    Here is your motherboard - B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC (from post #1) - Overview for B350 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC | Motherboard - The world leader in motherboard design | MSI Global

    It says it supports DDR4 - 3200 MHz -
    Supports DDR4-3200+(OC) Memory
    So why does the default RAM speed not show up as 3200 MHz? The 4 sticks of RAM you have are listed as being 3200 MHz.

    You list the RAM in post #1 @ 3000 MHz.

    Also in post #1, you list:
    •SPD Latency 15-15-15-36
    •SPD Speed 2133MHz
    •SPD Voltage 1.2V
    •Speed Rating PC4-24000 (3000MHz)
    You also state in post #1 -
    Ram speed: 1067MHz --- Why?
    Where did that number come from?

    Please don't forget to post the Speccy link -
    Quote Originally Posted by jcgriff2
    Speccy - Speccy -Speccy - System Information - Free Download

    Click on "File"; "Publish Snapshot" -- then copy the published URL (click "copy to clipboard") and paste it into your next post.
    The hardware expert will very likely be looking for the Speccy link.

    Regards. . .

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    Re: sysnative bsod posting


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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    Quote Originally Posted by softwaremaniac View Post
    It's working in dual channel at 2133MHz, that's why it's 1067. Try adjusting it in BIOS.
    Yep, I've seen and known that behavior in speccy, HWInfo and cpu-z.
    But not in minidumps and in the raminfo.html: they always showed the "entire speed".

    Speccy shows: 1197.6 MHz (that should be 2395.2, or 2400)

    This motherboard supports Dual Channel and not four channel.

    Finally the correct model!
    The compatibility list in the motherboard webpage, Memory Support Ryzen Series, shows this kit should work (in all four slots).

    Dominatorฎ Platinum Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz C14 Memory Kit (CMD32GX4M4A2400C14)
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    Re: sysnative bsod posting

    DDR = Double Data Rate it transfers the data on the rising and falling edges of the bus clock signal as opposes to SDRAM that only used the rising signal, Specy and others read the straight data rate you have to double it to get the effective clock speed of DDR. The number after DDR is a specification revision number and means little to the speed other then the newer the ram the faster it is capable of running on the correct supporting hardware.

    Your board is not a quad channel board but is capable of running the 4 sticks in dual channel. As always there may be a trade off in speed to get the 4 sticks sync'd up and happy.

    Have you had any BSOD's since the bios update?
    If so please upload a new Sysnative data collection file as there may very well be different data to analyze.
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