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    BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Hey guys, I keep getting a BSOD with DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION. Hoping someone can help figure out what's causing it- I've attached my logs.

    Specs:
    Operating System: Windows 8 Release Preview 64-bit (6.2, Build 8400) (8400.winmain_win8rc.120518-1423)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
    System Model: MS-7597
    BIOS: Default System BIOS
    Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
    Memory: 8192MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM
    Page File: 2285MB used, 10513MB available
    Video Card: ATI Radeon Sapphire HD 5670

    It almost seems like I get the bluescreen after a certain amount of inactivity- if I leave the computer alone for more than a couple minutes, I'll come back to a BSOD.

    Thanks for the help!
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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    All the required files are there but the DMP files. We really do need them

    Did you run the data collection app as "admin"?

    If so you can manually upload the DMP files using this method. By the way welcome to Sysnative

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    Please attach the DMP files to your next post not to post one.

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    You may be able to get the DMP files without crashing by booting into safe mode (F8) with networking.

    To enable us to assist you with your computer's BSOD symptoms, upload the contents of your "\Windows\Minidump" folder.

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    * Copy the contents of \Windows\Minidump to another (temporary) location somewhere on your machine.
    * Zip up the copy.
    * Attach the ZIP archive to your post using the "paperclip" (file attachments) button.
    *If the files are too large please upload them to a file sharing service like "Rapidshare" and put a link to them in your reply.
    To ensure minidumps are enabled:
    * Go to Start, in the Search Box type: sysdm.cpl, press Enter.
    * Under the Advanced tab, click on the Startup and Recovery Settings... button.
    * Ensure that Automatically restart is unchecked.
    * Under the Write Debugging Information header select Small memory dump (256 kB) in the dropdown box (the 256kb varies).
    * Ensure that the Small Dump Directory is listed as %systemroot%\Minidump.
    * OK your way out.
    * Reboot if changes have been made.
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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Thanks for the quick reply. Just noticed that I do not have a /Minidump folder, so I changed the stuff in System Properties, going to reboot now. I'm assuming the BSOD will happen again soon, so I'll upload the dump once it's generated. Thanks again for the help, really appreciate it!

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Well, just as I suspected would happen... The BSOD hit again... but when it went to the blue screen, it said "Windows is recording information..." or something to that effect, and there's a progress bar that just stays stuck at 0%. And the minidump folder still wasn't created.

    So it looks like for whatever reason, the computer is freezing/crashing, going to the Windows 8 BSOD (I'm assuming that's what it is), and then it just sits at 0% forever (I waited atleast 30 minutes and it never moved). So now I'm stuck. Any ideas?

    It looks like this, but it says "Windows is recording information for recovery" or something like that, with a progress bar.
    BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8-6149662567_7e4137fb09-jpg

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Hi -

    PERFMON reporting -
    Code:
    BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8-error-gif Device drivers are not installed.
    Cause: A driver has not been installed for this device preventing it from working properly.
    Details: The device driver for Coprocessor has not been installed. This device will not be available until the correct device driver is installed.
    Resolution: 1. Try installing the drivers using Windows Update.
    2. Install the drivers that are on the installation media that came with the device.
    3. Check with the manufacturer for an updated driver.
    Related: Explanation of Error Codes Generated by Device Manager
    What does Device Manager show - red/yellow flags?

    What version ATI drivers do you have installed?

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    There was a yellow flag on the Coprocessor, but I've downloaded and updated the latest ATI drivers for my motherboard since then (since the ZIP files above)- (edit: and it then detected the coprocessor / updated the drivers successfully) and I just rebooted after yet another BSOD. All of a sudden, at random, my mouse/screen will freeze, the system hangs for about 5 seconds, then it goes to this screen (taken with my phone):
    BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8-uuhnf-jpg
    It just sits there, at 0%, forever. And no dump was created, C:\Windows\Minidump folder still doesn't exist.

    Note: This problem started happening prior to installing Win8... I noticed it started occurring regularly a few weeks ago to my Win7 64 install- even though I didn't change any hardware or even install any new software, for that matter... I can't figure out what might have triggered this happening. I've tested the HDD and memory and everything comes up clean.

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    How many video cards do you have?

    DirectX reporting 3 - ATI Radeon HD 5670
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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    You have 2x4GB RAM. Did you add one of the sticks after W8 installation?

    The page file appears configured for 4 GB RAM, not 8 GB:
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    AllocatedBaseSize=4608
    Caption=C:\pagefile.sys
    CurrentUsage=0
    Description=C:\pagefile.sys
    InstallDate=20110926222831.106000-420
    Name=C:\pagefile.sys
    PeakUsage=0
    Status=
    TempPageFile=FALSE
    I would expect to see a 2012 date, not 2011.

    Reset virtual memory settings - system managed, all drives.

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    I have a triple monitor setup on a single ATI Radeon card... I did upgrade from 4GB to 8GB of ram a few months ago, but the PC was working fine until a few weeks ago. So sounds like that might be the problem, huh? I'll change virtual memory settings and report back. Thanks for all the help, I seriously appreciate it. I'm at wit's end here :)

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    OK, so I unchecked "Automatically manage", and chose "System managed size" and rebooted. Went back into system properties, and it's still saying 'Total page file size: 4608 MB'. It also would only let me change to 'system managed' on the C: drive, the other drives it defaults to 'No paging file'. Should I manually change the size to 8GB instead?

    EDIT: Ok, I forgot to click "Set" on the other drives. Now it's telling me 21014 MB total paging file size, when using the other harddrives. Going to do another reboot (hopefully I don't BSOD while rebooting again)

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Rebooted now, and went back into System Properties. It now says "paging file size: 13824 MB". Hopefully this solves the problem!

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    That could be the way Windows 8 sets the page file up... diifferent than W7 & Vista. The page file is where Windows write the dump file info, which later becomes the BSOD dump file.

    Was a full kernel dump file created? --> \windows\memory.dmp

    When you set the 3 monitors up was it under W8 or W7....?

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    There is no memory.dmp file, so doesn't look like it. I set up the 3 monitors under Windows 7 initially. I should note that I installed Windows 8 as a "fresh install". Wiped my SSD (C:) and installed W8 (did not upgrade). The triple monitors "just worked" under W8.

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by revenuebuilder View Post
    Rebooted now, and went back into System Properties. It now says "paging file size: 13824 MB". Hopefully this solves the problem!
    I focused in on the page file because in W7 & Vista, the page file base allocation size must be > installed physical RAM.

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Thanks, I'll follow instructions in the thread and report back if I get another BSOD anytime soon and can get a dump. Really appreciate the help, thank you so much for your time.

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Actually, very odd thing just happened... I changed the system recovery to 'kernel memory dump' and it gave me an alert saying:

    Windows might not be able to record details that could help identify system errors because your current paging file is disabled or less than 400 MB. Click OK to return to Virtual Memory settings, enable the paging file, and set the size to a value over 400 MB, or click cancel to change your memory dump selection.

    Is this just because I changed the paging file as 'system managed'?

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Also, here's the output of WMI_Recoveros.exe:



    AutoReboot=FALSE
    Caption=
    DebugFilePath=%SystemRoot%\MEMORY.DMP
    DebugInfoType=2
    Description=
    ExpandedDebugFilePath=C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
    ExpandedMiniDumpDirectory=C:\Windows\Minidump
    KernelDumpOnly=FALSE
    MiniDumpDirectory=%SystemRoot%\Minidump
    Name=Microsoft Windows 8 Release Preview|C:\Windows|\Device\Harddisk0\Partition2
    OverwriteExistingDebugFile=TRUE
    SendAdminAlert=FALSE
    SettingID=
    WriteDebugInfo=TRUE
    WriteToSystemLog=TRUE








    AllocatedBaseSize=4608
    Caption=C:\pagefile.sys
    CurrentUsage=0
    Description=C:\pagefile.sys
    InstallDate=20110926222831.106000-420
    Name=C:\pagefile.sys
    PeakUsage=0
    Status=
    TempPageFile=FALSE




    AllocatedBaseSize=4608
    Caption=F:\pagefile.sys
    CurrentUsage=0
    Description=F:\pagefile.sys
    InstallDate=20091219235609.630800-480
    Name=F:\pagefile.sys
    PeakUsage=0
    Status=
    TempPageFile=FALSE




    AllocatedBaseSize=4608
    Caption=G:\pagefile.sys
    CurrentUsage=0
    Description=G:\pagefile.sys
    InstallDate=20101202025707.562017-480
    Name=G:\pagefile.sys
    PeakUsage=0
    Status=
    TempPageFile=FALSE










    Caption=c:\ 'pagefile.sys'
    Description='pagefile.sys' @ c:\
    InitialSize=0
    MaximumSize=0
    Name=c:\pagefile.sys
    SettingID=pagefile.sys @ c:




    Caption=f:\ 'pagefile.sys'
    Description='pagefile.sys' @ f:\
    InitialSize=0
    MaximumSize=0
    Name=f:\pagefile.sys
    SettingID=pagefile.sys @ f:




    Caption=g:\ 'pagefile.sys'
    Description='pagefile.sys' @ g:\
    InitialSize=0
    MaximumSize=0
    Name=g:\pagefile.sys
    SettingID=pagefile.sys @ g:




    Is it odd that it still says '4608' for base size, and InitialSize,MaximumSize=0?

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    The overrides look like no page file exists -

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    Caption=c:\ 'pagefile.sys'
     Description='pagefile.sys' @ c:\
     InitialSize=0
     MaximumSize=0
     Name=c:\pagefile.sys
     SettingID=pagefile.sys @ c:
    Page file needs to be on OS drive only, which I assume is c: ?

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    Yup, C: is my OS drive. It's a 60GB SSD... as of right now, I set it to system managed on all 3 drives and it looks like it's combining the 3 to make a larger page file. Should I just manually set a larger page file on the C: drive, and switch the other 2 drives back to 'Auto'? If so, I'm unsure as to what to put for a minimum/maximum value.

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    Re: BSOD: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION in Windows 8

    System managed for c: should take care of things for you.

    Have you checked for an SSD firmware upgrade at the manufacturer's support site?

    Have you tried running with 1 or 2 monitors instead of the 3 to see if BSODs continue?

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