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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    The bsod isn't included... By the way, you still have these files:
    \??\c:\program files (x86)\msi afterburner\rtcore64.sys
    \??\c:\windows\gdrv.sys
    gdrv.sys shouldn't be there, if you have uninstalled it...
    rtcore64.sys could also be a problem. Are you actually over/under-clocking?
    If yes, try to boot without over/under-clocking.
    If you aren't over/under-clocking, and if the problem appears also after you stopped to over/under-clock your machine, try to remove msi afterburner completely (you will always be able to reinstall it later, right?).
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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Sorry forgot to mention my computer spazed out on me giving me blue screens on the simplest of tasks at random times, had to reset it to get back to the internet, No I am not clocking the gpu or the cpu I use afterburner for temp monitoring and fan control, the only problem I had today with my pc is it froze in game, no bsod it just became unresponsive and stuck on the last frame, looked for a crash report and I couldn't find anything so I looked in the event viewer and at the time of the crash there was this log:

    The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

  3. #23

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    So Got a new bsod I havn't seen before, I have uninstalled msi completely and deleted the file gdrv.sys, here is the new scan:
    Attached Files Attached Files

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      • CPU:
        A10-7800, 4 CPU, 4 thr, 65/45W, FM2+, 28nm, Steamroller/Kaveri
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        10GB (Nanya and kingston ddr3-1333 9-9-9-24)
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        Radeon R7 720MHz (8 GPU cores, integrated in CPU)
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        RealTek ALC662 (integrated in MB)
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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    (I'm starting to think your PSU isn't enough, but I'm not an expert even in hardware)

    You could try to run driver verifier to get more precise informations; please read CAREFULLY the following instructions:
    • Change the bcdedit bootmenupolicy setting from standard to legacy:
      Read More:
      Restart your PC and see if you are able to make appear windows advanced boot options (SAFE MODE included!) with the good old F8 key.
    • Create a restore point
    • Create a system image
    • Read the guide about Driver Verifier - BSOD related - Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7 & Vista (click).
    • Read some other tutorials/guides and WARNINGS on internet.
    • Enable verifier (check the EXPERIMENTAL instructions at the end of this post)
    • If you'll get a very fast BSOD after you logged into windows, you'll need to go to safe mode to reset verifier settings.
      From an elevated command prompt:
      Code:
      verifier /reset
    • Post here the new verifier dump





    CAUTION

     
    • I created the following method to speed up things a bit, to enable verifier settings like written in Jcgriff's verifier thread, using only third party drivers (hence excluding microsoft drivers).
      This was tested only on Windows 10 home x64


    1. download nirsoft driverview and decompress its folder (leaving its default name) on your desktop, i.e. on the desktop there should be the driverview folder (with its files in it):

    2. open notepad, copy the following text and save the file on your desktop as EnableVerifier.ps1:
      Note:
      Code for 64bit windows versions
      Read More:
      Note:
      Code for 32bit windows versions
      Read More:
    3. From an elevated command prompt, run:
      powershell -executionpolicy unrestricted "c:\users\%username%\desktop\EnableVerifier.ps1"
    4. It should appear something like:
      Read More:
    5. Reboot your machine and wait the verifier dump (i.e., verifier should force a new BSOD, identifying the problem).
    Last edited by xilolee; 08-13-2016 at 01:30 PM.

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Just as an update I did the first portion, I ran driver verifier and rebooted with no blue screens. Lately it has been only stopping on the last frame in game with thees errors in event viewer:

    -The User Data Access_2de05 service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 10000 milliseconds: Restart the service.

    -The User Data Storage_2de05 service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 10000 milliseconds: Restart the service.

    -The Sync Host_2de05 service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 1 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 10000 milliseconds: Restart the service.

    -Your computer has lost the lease to its IP address 2601:901:8000:2470:428d:5cff:fe19:b7ea on the Network Card with network address 0x408D5C19B7EA.

    if that helps at all that's really the only type of error message I can find at the moment. have to head to work will do the second part when I get back. thank you

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    What first portion? (the part at the end of the post should allow you to enable verifier without actually open verifier and modify its settings, but it isn't needed if you did it manually)

    I get your same errors (on windows shutdown/restart) and I think each windows 10 user get them (and maybe also windows 8.1 users); sorry but now I'm using Italian language on my system:
    • Event ID: 7031
      Il servizio Accesso dati utente_2b309 č stato arrestato in modo imprevisto. Questo problema si č verificato 1 volta/e. Le seguenti azioni di correzione saranno eseguite tra 10000 millisecondi: Riavvia il servizio.
    • Event ID: 7031
      Il servizio Archiviazione dati utente_2b309 č stato arrestato in modo imprevisto. Questo problema si č verificato 1 volta/e. Le seguenti azioni di correzione saranno eseguite tra 10000 millisecondi: Riavvia il servizio.
    • Event ID: 7031
      Il servizio Dati contatti_2b309 č stato arrestato in modo imprevisto. Questo problema si č verificato 1 volta/e. Le seguenti azioni di correzione saranno eseguite tra 10000 millisecondi: Riavvia il servizio.
    • Event ID: 7031
      Il servizio Sincronizza host_2b309 č stato arrestato in modo imprevisto. Questo problema si č verificato 1 volta/e. Le seguenti azioni di correzione saranno eseguite tra 10000 millisecondi: Riavvia il servizio.

  7. #27

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Ok yeah now I get it, Yes I did run driver verifier but came up with no crash on the reboot.

  8. #28

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    How would I go about checking to see if my psu amount is adequate?

  9. #29

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    The more I read about it the more it seems to fit all the symptoms, random bsod's, freezes and application errors, granted this may just be wishful thinking on my part but my roomate has almost an identical pc only real diffrence is I think he has an extra 8 gb of ram and a gtx 960, but my point is he has a 850w PSU and his system has never had a problem my PSU is only 600w.

  10. #30

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    something new :

    Description
    A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.


    Problem signature
    Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
    Code: 144
    Parameter 1: 101e
    Parameter 2: ffffd001fb7cd970
    Parameter 3: 0
    Parameter 4: 0
    OS version: 10_0_10586
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 768_1
    OS Version: 10.0.10586.2.0.0.768.101
    Locale ID: 1033


    Extra information about the problem
    Bucket ID: LKD_0x144_INVALID_TRANSFER_EVENT_PTR_ED_1_USBXHCI!TelemetryData_CreateReport_VEN_1106_DEV_3483_REV_01_FW_136D9

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue7 View Post
    The more I read about it the more it seems to fit all the symptoms, random bsod's, freezes and application errors, granted this may just be wishful thinking on my part but my roomate has almost an identical pc only real diffrence is I think he has an extra 8 gb of ram and a gtx 960, but my point is he has a 850w PSU and his system has never had a problem my PSU is only 600w.
    You could be correct, although the power consumption specs the gtx950 shows is with i7 3.2GHz, so we do not know if the same amount of power is used with your AMD FX-9590.
    If we would assume it is and including the power consumption your AMD CPU uses per what I found on the dutch tech site Tweakers.net stating the CPU uses 220W you would come to a 570W power consumption for the GPU & CPU.

    I do not know how much power your other components use, but it is a bit tight with this assumption. A small spike could be causing problems with this assumption.
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  12. #32

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    So theoretically with those 2 components combined I am almost at my max Watt, Does playing games or rather putting the Gpu under load increase power consumption, because that's were these freezes seem to be happening most of the time. The only other components I have are 2x8gb ram sticks.

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Of course, per what I understand it starts with 90W consumption. The more load there is the more power is required.

    What about your motherboard, mouse and keyboard? They also use power, though a lot less, but like I mentioned a small spike is enough to use more than the 30W that is left. This is why the recommendation is to get a PSU that provides at least 25% more wattage than necessary. In your case you would be on a safer side with at least a 650W or 700W PSU if you're not planning on adding stuff that require a lot of power when under load.

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue7 View Post
    something new:
    Description
    A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.
    ...
    Bucket ID: LKD_0x144_INVALID_TRANSFER_EVENT_PTR_ED_1_USBXHCI!TelemetryData_CreateReport_VEN_1106_DEV_3483_REV_01_FW_136D9
    Is that a new BSOD caused by driver verifier? If yes, post here the new dump.
    Are you still running verifier?
    Jcgriff2 (and also Jcgriff1 ) says it should "run for 24 hours minimum".

    Why have I written this?
    Quote Originally Posted by xilolee View Post
    (I'm starting to think your PSU isn't enough, but I'm not an expert even in hardware)
    Because I searched the web a bit and I found these threads:

    tomshardware.co.uk - PSU not powerful enough I think :| (click), where SR-71 blackbird said:
    Read More:
    tomshardware.co.uk - Can silver certified PSUs handle High end gaming? (600w ATNG ATM-600FB) (click) , where 466gaming said:
    Read More:


    I didn't find WHERE in amd website (excluding the community) "AMD recommends using at minimum a 1000W power supply", like said by SR-71 blackbird.
    In amd shop, one of the reviewers (probably given in amazon website) said he's using XFX Pro Series 1000W Platinum Limited Black Edition.
    Another one (from newegg) said he's using EVGA 220-P2-1000-XR.

    Now I've tried another search and found these (real) buids: Completed Builds Using AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor (click).

    Those two guys are both using GeForce GTX 960 and Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Certified ATX (the modular version, most likely...).

    Just for curiosity I checked the xfx pro prices and it seems the 1250watt version cost less than the 1000 or 1050 version (about 200$ on amazon, against 484$ for the 1000w).

    Now, same premise (I'm not a hardware expert): I'd search a PSU over 800W, from a high quality manufacturer...
    Last edited by xilolee; 08-14-2016 at 05:13 PM.

  15. #35

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    if you can run driver verifier for 24 hours I must have messed up along the way somewhere because when I setup the driver verifier, It only asked for a reboot and that was it, I thought if I had a driver conflict ion or error It would give an automatic bsod. Also that last posted error was not even a bsod that was a system freeze where it just stopped on the last frame (only in-game lately), I found that error in Windows Reliability Monitor. So are we almost sure that all the problems I have been having are attributed to a inadequate PSU?

  16. #36

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    I only ask because I have the means to do so right now. I am very persistent on wanting to fix the problem as soon as I possibly can lol. Thank you for your help so much and the knowledge you have shared with me I am so inexplicably grateful to you!

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue7 View Post
    So are we almost sure that all the problems I have been having are attributed to a inadequate PSU?
    No, I'm not totally and 100% sure of it.
    To check verifier settings, open a command prompt (it should work with a simple command prompt, but it's better if you check it with an elevated command prompt) and copy/paste these commands:

    verifier /query
    verifier /querysettings
    Output (important parts in bold - strange it uses English for the first command...):
    Read More:

    If you read the BSOD posting instructions, you should have read also point 6:

  18. #38

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ATM-600FB 600W
    'ATM-600FB' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file. pops up when I enter the command verfifier/ query

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    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    From your post it seems you wrote ATM-600FB 600W as a command...
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  20. #40

    Re: Help with random BSOD and Freezing.

    No, I went to cmd wrote verifier/query and at the end of the entry thats what it said

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